world of road deaths

[eggbod]

this is a bit serious for PH, but makes interesting reading
enjoy;

http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-development/inter...

[alsem]

I think they should include safety of the cars also, for example a few days ago a hundred car pileup in Germany.
If you see the video, there are mostly modern and classy German cars, and nobody was fatally injured, this in no coincidence to me.

http://nos.nl/video/483965-enorme-kettingbotsing-i...

Sadly our governments gave up the safety route a few years ago and now our roads are clogged up with g-wizz, toyota priuos and small city cars who will never save any life.

[mikeyr]

alsem said:

Sadly our governments gave up the safety route a few years ago and now our roads are clogged up with g-wizz, toyota priuos and small city cars who will never save any life.

Err, quite the opposite with the safety route actually, say what you want about hybrids but 2 and 3rd placed NCAP results for the Prius and Insight suggest the one thing they aren't bad at is safety! A "small city car" is probably safer than an old massive car to be fair too...

http://www.euroncap.com/Content-Web-Article/4a35be...

[to3m]

mikeyr said:

alsem said:

Sadly our governments gave up the safety route a few years ago and now our roads are clogged up with g-wizz, toyota priuos and small city cars who will never save any life.

Err, quite the opposite with the safety route actually, say what you want about hybrids but 2 and 3rd placed NCAP results for the Prius and Insight suggest the one thing they aren't bad at is safety! A "small city car" is probably safer than an old massive car to be fair too...

http://www.euroncap.com/Content-Web-Article/4a35be...

I'm also not sure that the modern preponderance of air bags, universally-fitted ABS and seatbelts, common traction control,pedestrian-friendly bumpers and increasingly stringent Euro NCAP standards (to say nothing of the ever-growing list of driving aids) is evidence that safety has been forgotten...

[paranoid airbag]

to3m said:

mikeyr said:

alsem said:

Sadly our governments gave up the safety route a few years ago and now our roads are clogged up with g-wizz, toyota priuos and small city cars who will never save any life.

Err, quite the opposite with the safety route actually, say what you want about hybrids but 2 and 3rd placed NCAP results for the Prius and Insight suggest the one thing they aren't bad at is safety! A "small city car" is probably safer than an old massive car to be fair too...

http://www.euroncap.com/Content-Web-Article/4a35be...

I'm also not sure that the modern preponderance of air bags, universally-fitted ABS and seatbelts, common traction control,pedestrian-friendly bumpers and increasingly stringent Euro NCAP standards (to say nothing of the ever-growing list of driving aids) is evidence that safety has been forgotten...

Quite. I'd also tend to think of PH as the sort of place where 'safety' = 'don't crash it in the first place' rather than 'ruin handling, performance and economy with a few hundred kilos of steel just so you can run over MX5s with impunity'

[scottyrocks]

mikeyr said:

Err, quite the opposite with the safety route actually, say what you want about hybrids but 2 and 3rd placed NCAP results for the Prius and Insight suggest the one thing they aren't bad at is safety! A "small city car" is probably safer than an old massive car to be fair too...

http://www.euroncap.com/Content-Web-Article/4a35be...

These aren't csrs you are familiar with, most likely, but this film makes the point:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aDs1sHJLFE