Make HGVs and rigid lorries carry snowchains

Make HGVs and rigid lorries carry snowchains

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Tunku

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7,703 posts

229 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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Would this be a viable idea?
Seems to me that most motorway and normal road problems are caused by blockages by big vehicles being defeated by gradients.

Oldandslow

2,405 posts

207 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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Problem is that the snow is rarely very deep and it would do massive damage to the carriageways. We're not keeping them in great repair as it is.

GC8

19,910 posts

191 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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It wouldnt make much difference if they were unladen, in many cases. Would you make then drive everywhere loaded too?

dowahdiddyman

965 posts

212 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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What is the point, trucks with snow chains wouldn`t be able to get anywhere because all the cars without them or winter tyres would be stuck.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

275 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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dowahdiddyman said:
What is the point, trucks with snow chains wouldn`t be able to get anywhere because all the cars without them or winter tyres would be stuck.
based on what?

so a car with 4 wheels of which 2 are driven is more ilkley to get stuck than an 18 wheeler with 1 driven axle?

chains are not the solution ( although winter truck tyres would help)

DrDeAtH

3,588 posts

233 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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The solution is to make all vehicles caterpillar tracked.....

Getragdogleg

8,775 posts

184 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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The truck I drive can get through pretty much anywhere but is often stopped by the floundering of car drivers.
I have weight over the drive axle so that really helps, when I was driving an Opel manta as a daily I would put a couple of bags of sand in the boot to get a bit of weight over the drive wheels, I also believe in winter tyres.

Snow chains would never get used on my truck because I have never needed them.

GTIR

24,741 posts

267 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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Trucks should all be banned from the roads at the weekend, like in France. They also should be banned from overtaking on two lane roads and have a "turbo" overtake button.
Why can't they all do the deliveries at night and in smaller vans? Simple.

Whilst I'm at it, they should all be retrained as I'm always getting cut up by trucks.

Oh, and they should be banned from the road if it's raining (Not drizzle but heavy rain.) as the spray is dangerous and it gets my car dirty. yes





There I think I've covered it all.


Getragdogleg

8,775 posts

184 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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GTIR said:
Trucks should all be banned from the roads at the weekend, like in France. They also should be banned from overtaking on two lane roads and have a "turbo" overtake button.
Why can't they all do the deliveries at night and in smaller vans? Simple.

Whilst I'm at it, they should all be retrained as I'm always getting cut up by trucks.

Oh, and they should be banned from the road if it's raining (Not drizzle but heavy rain.) as the spray is dangerous and it gets my car dirty. yes





There I think I've covered it all.
You missed:

Everything should go on the railway and be delivered on hand cart

Trucks should be banned from anything other than motorways.

Trucks should not be allowed out when cars are on the road.

Cars take priority over everyone else.

Why can't we have heated roads.

GC8

19,910 posts

191 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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I wonder if this resonates with the clowns who post meaning it?

fathomfive

9,928 posts

191 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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WeirdNeville said:
Only if they also carry bitumen and gravel and a small but dedicated road repair team to fill in the gouges/trenches they leave behind.
Could they not get the illegal immigrants they shuttle around in their trailers to do that? winktongue out

Getragdogleg

8,775 posts

184 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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GC8 said:
I wonder if this resonates with the clowns who post meaning it?
Doubt it, all those sort of people are Council road planners.

s p a c e m a n

10,782 posts

149 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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confused I've never seen a gritter with snow chains on, they must be getting stuck everywhere.

GC8

19,910 posts

191 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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HGVs are usually the last vehicles to get stuck, with well over ten tonnes pressing the wheels down. In some circumstances they can struggle for traction, particularly, but not exclusively, when they are unladen.


coppice

8,629 posts

145 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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Scuffers said:
based on what?

so a car with 4 wheels of which 2 are driven is more ilkley to get stuck than an 18 wheeler with 1 driven axle?

chains are not the solution ( although winter truck tyres would help)

Only get stuck if your'e baht'at ....

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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Scuffers said:
dowahdiddyman said:
What is the point, trucks with snow chains wouldn`t be able to get anywhere because all the cars without them or winter tyres would be stuck.
based on what?
That ramming cars out the way may be considered to be a bit rude

Cataldo

1,357 posts

195 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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Get rid of these auto gearbox contraptions and start fitting diff locks again. I've not had my auto stuck but they are crap in snow and ice and I'd lay money on the fact that the three stuck trucks I passed on Bowes incline on the A66 in the snow 7 days ago were autos.

Slow

6,973 posts

138 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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GC8 said:
HGVs are usually the last vehicles to get stuck, with well over ten tonnes pressing the wheels down. In some circumstances they can struggle for traction, particularly, but not exclusively, when they are unladen.
They dont get stuck but they spin out a fair bit, yesterday there was a 20 mile stretch of heavy snow on the m6.

About 3 lorries are off the road, like 15 cars or so.

Yet my car with almost bald tyres drove just fine.... I think the real fix is people need to learn to drive on snow and to slow down.

beko1987

1,636 posts

135 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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I got stuck (5 cars behind an incident) in the snow on my way home from work, pointing down a fairly steep hill on a corner.

Coming the other way was a large lorry (frozen foods type job) who had obviously come that way as the M40 was jammed. As he came past me he started to slide into me, I imagine due to his awful tyres. Had he had chains/tyres on he would have been ok and wouldn't have had to wait for me to be able to move, before sliding himself across both lanes are royally screwing the whole situation up!

cptsideways

13,552 posts

253 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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When Dextra the local lighting co send out their fleet of trucks at 7am onto the local roads in the snow its utter carnage round our way. I've towed several of them up many of the local hills (with a Landcruiser on snow tyres). Now just don't mention blocking the A303 rage