BMW dealership want how much for a new battery !!!!!
BMW dealership want how much for a new battery !!!!!
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WasEYEconned

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128 posts

203 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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Folks,
BMW 730 d. 2008

Disaster, took the Mrs away for the weekend,she was actually pretty cool after we had to walk 2 miles to train station and endure 6 hours and 3 train changes getting back home ! ,The nice man from the AA told us he was unable to jump start battery as it needed resetting at BMW etc etc..

Things could be worse I thought,until the not so nice man from BMW just called me to say the diagnostic test showed the side lights were lt on for 18 hours and the battery has been drained, well please charge it I said, unable to do that he replied,it's dead, needs a new battery, £382 fitted.

My question to you knowledgable people doesn't concern the price tag more the unable to charge it situation, surely battery's can be charged up no ?

Outrun

425 posts

264 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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I had a similar shock when I had to replace the battery on my 2005 B7. I ended up up buying the battery and fitting it myself for around £250. They do warn you that they have to plug the car in to tell it that its got a new battery but it didn't make a difference and I got them to do this at the next service.

tdog7

236 posts

182 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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Fully discharging a car battery will affect it's ability to hold charge somewhat, but after one full discharge it should still be ok, and certainly should be able to accept a good trickle charge. I would attempt this myself, and then if really needed get a new battery. Certainly don't let them charge you over £300 for a new battery and fitting!

Tuvra

7,927 posts

256 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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I had a similar experience wink

Read about it here and what I done: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Schermerhorn

4,353 posts

220 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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That's what I hate about these big large luxo barges. A flat battery means a NEW battery.

A customer of mine left his S-class side lights on over night and found the next morning that the car could not start. We tried starting it with some jump leads and a massive truck battery to no avail. In the end we had to give it a new battery. He wasn't happy and looked at me as though I had fleeced him and I wasn't happy that I may have upset someone.


McSam

6,753 posts

206 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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tdog7 said:
Fully discharging a car battery will affect it's ability to hold charge somewhat, but after one full discharge it should still be ok, and certainly should be able to accept a good trickle charge. I would attempt this myself, and then if really needed get a new battery. Certainly don't let them charge you over £300 for a new battery and fitting!
Well, it depends - sidelights are brilliant at hammering a battery down to dead zero. I did this once and it was so flat the analogue clock had stopped, I got less than half a volt on my meter. And then it'll be sulphated and generally, you're fked..

Yes, you can sometimes get them to recover with a decent charger, but they're never quite the same again after that, in my experience. I wouldn't want one in a car so heavily dependent on it like the OP's, anyway. I used to deal with battery warranty claims a fair bit, and honestly, I could tell from my test results whether the customer had knackered it at least once in its life with alarming accuracy!

I'm interested as to how the battery can be so much money though, I bet it isn't that hard to get to and last I checked you couldn't really pay more than £150 for a non-race automotive battery.

WasEYEconned

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128 posts

203 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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Thank you for replies sofar.... Update is I've called europarts which is next door to the BMW dealership and they have 2 battery's specific for the car at 175 and 208, just going to call BMW and ask how uh to fit and register etc.

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

216 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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Jesus. And I felt hard done by last week when I replaced the battery in my Corrado for £65.99 for a decent 63Ah Bosch Silver!

Would love to know their justification for the price.. according to a random battery website I went on, for your car should be a 100Ah and you should be able to get the battery for between £100-£150 for a decent brand - so the rest will be labour on top and stuff by the dealer. Ouch.

Edited by Chicane-UK on Tuesday 19th March 10:33

Jakg

4,063 posts

199 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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What are the battery dimensions / size / power figures?

Got to be something out there less than that... my monster Bosch was only £80 and it's huge.

Benbay001

5,895 posts

188 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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Schermerhorn said:
We tried starting it with... a massive truck battery
Surely the massive truck battery would be 24v?

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

216 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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I have a friend with a 730d actually... I'll speak to him and see if there's any way round this ridiculous cost. He's quite handy with the laptop for working on his car / reprogramming stuff so he may have a workaround...

Carl-H

947 posts

237 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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My battery for my discovery is enormous, commercial and I'm pretty sure it was 1000 cold cranking amps. Was £120 a few months back. Even at -6 it's starts the disco within half a second.

Krikkit

27,939 posts

212 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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The new-generation BMW batteries are all the expensive glass ones, aren't they? So double your typical normal batt price, plus a dealer rate to fit and re-set the computer.

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

216 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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OK - I just spoke to my friend. So apparently there is no real magic in terms of swapping the battery, provided you can find the right size for your model of car - you should even be able to find that in Halfords (in their little book of batteries or whatever).

Apparently the 7 series ECU records data about the battery so that, over time as the efficiency of the battery decreases, the car knows to reduce the amount of energy that it attempts to store in the battery. This is the counter that needs resetting when a new batter is installed, however my friend assures me that you don't NEED to do this immediately as an urgent thing, and that if you stick a new battery on, the car should be absolutely fine - but that you should then find a BMW specialist / independent who can reset this counter for you. And all should be well.

Hope that helps.

JREwing

17,551 posts

210 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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A good friend of mine was quoted something very similar on an Audi Q7 but he managed to get it done through warranty (he bought it approved used).
Being helpful they also gave him a quote for 4 new tyres - £1600 fitted!

MysteryLemon

4,968 posts

222 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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This is why I hate modern cars.


WasEYEconned

Original Poster:

128 posts

203 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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Cheers everyone, and chicanes friend,

Halfords do 2 battery's for this type of car priced at 110 and 130 but not suitable for mine because of stop start, I found a place in Liverpool that quoted 165 for a suitable battery delivered overnight. But I'm on the school run at 3-30 today !

So I'm looking at 170 odd from europarts a 5 minute walk to BMW and I'm guessing 100 to fit, if BMW don't charge me for telling me it's flat that is saving 100 quid on walking 5 mins, which is nice.

However the BMW service desk have had an engaged phone for the last 20 mins, I'll try again, any guesses as to what they want to charge to just fit it ?

chryslerben

1,271 posts

190 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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Benbay001 said:
Surely the massive truck battery would be 24v?
Normally atleast 2 12volts linked in series

Carl-H

947 posts

237 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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Why on earth would you pay £100 to let then fit it? It's a 2 minute job. Try and get a price just to reset it and fit it in their car park. That's exactly what I would do. Dispose of the old one down the tip.

WasEYEconned

Original Poster:

128 posts

203 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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Carl-H said:
Why on earth would you pay £100 to let then fit it? It's a 2 minute job. Try and get a price just to reset it and fit it in their car park. That's exactly what I would do. Dispose of the old one down the tip.
Good idea, I'm on the phone to them now