Nannies & Redundancy
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Chipchap

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2,639 posts

226 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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So here is a poser for the employment law specialists:--

Lets say Family A consists of two parents and one 6 or 7yr old child. Said family employed a full time Nanny when child was 3 months old.

  • Both parents work and have excellent but demanding jobs
  • Non contracted hours are unpredictable for Nanny as parents can be late at the drop of a hat
  • Nanny has a contract of employment laying out terms/rates/hours etc
  • Everyone gets on well and no issues in almost 7yrs
  • Nanny has not had one days sick leave in all that time, so parents can depend on her
  • From 3 months to 4 yrs 6 months Nanny worked ful time 5 days per week
  • Not certain if contract was varied when child started school but hours were
  • Nanny now works full days for 13 weeks & Split shifts for 39 weeks
  • Child will go to Middle School in cSept 2014 at which point Nanny will essentially no longer be required.
  • So is Nanny redundant as she cannot TUPE to the school.
  • Child will be deemed self sufficient to get themselves ready in the morning, do homework or get themselves home after school
  • Assume that some sort of child care will be sought for holidays augmented perhaps by some sort of after school clubs etc during term time.
Nothing malicious here just wondering if Nanny will qualify for 7yrs redundancy or not when job comes to an end.


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edc

9,620 posts

280 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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If the nanny is employed and meets the criteria for a redundancy payment then yes, when the need for the work is no longer there, a redundancy situation arises.

mph1977

12,467 posts

197 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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edc said:
If the nanny is employed and meets the criteria for a redundancy payment then yes, when the need for the work is no longer there, a redundancy situation arises.
that would be my understanding as well .

Cyberprog

2,323 posts

212 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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But I'd be alert to the fact that the nanny will need a good reference smile Going in too strong may destroy the chances of this...

IIRC my parents didn't have to make my first nanny redundant, she sensed that her time was up and gave notice and moved on, and the second nanny (well, IIRC third or fourth, there were a few in between who didn't last any time) was much better suited to older children (the first was a qualified nursery nurse). However I think the second was, eventually, made redundant when my sister was 13 or 14...

condor

8,837 posts

277 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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Perhaps you could change the role from nanny to housekeeper smile

ClaphamGT3

12,232 posts

272 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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My nanny retired at the age of 72 when I went to prep school in 1978 after 58 years of (not quite constant) service as nursery maid to my great uncle, nanny to my father and to my four brothers and I.

No redundancy but she did get a rent-free cottage and modest pension for the rest of her life.

Edited by ClaphamGT3 on Tuesday 19th March 21:13

singlecoil

35,826 posts

275 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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A nanny with good references for that length of service will have no trouble getting another job. Has she looked for one, spoken to any of the many agencies?

Chipchap

Original Poster:

2,639 posts

226 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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She is not concerned or looking yet as Sept 2014 is a looong way off.

It was merely a hypothetical question on what would the proper conclusion when the day does arrive.