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jojackson4

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3,049 posts

167 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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What do you boys in the know think to Pirelli p zeros
It no track car and its road use only
By all accounts there std on Lamborghinis but no idea
Your input would be good
Thanks Peter

seeby

1,807 posts

200 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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Ive got Pirelli,s all round on my Chim . I find them good all weathers. I was a bit dubious doing a track day last Sat,but was pleasantly surprised at the grip on a soaking wet track. smile

Pipeandacrepe

145 posts

164 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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I've just put Dunlop Sport Maxx RT on the back. Incredible in the wet, can accelerate almost normally on standing water. Don't know what they're like in the dry yet, as it won't stop fking raining!

jojackson4

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3,049 posts

167 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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Got he first dibs on a pair of fronts of the zeros and wan to know about them as mine are getting close to the bone
There new and are up for a tone a peace but I have no ideas on this type of tyre more ideas on transits rubber

QBee

22,502 posts

174 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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Lewis Hamilton had P Zeros on his car last Sunday, FWIW

jojackson4

Original Poster:

3,049 posts

167 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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So there ok for £200 for the pair?

phazed

22,509 posts

234 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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My chim had a set of new P Zeros on when I bought it and to be honest I wasn't impressed with the grip.

Experts have said that they are designed for a heavier car and you would be better looking for a softer tyre, aledgedly!

If money is no object I really rate my R1Rs, grip is fantastic!

QBee

22,502 posts

174 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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phazed said:
If money is no object I really rate my R1Rs, grip is fantastic!
Lets get this in perspective - you CAN buy cheaper tyres, of course.

But the Chimaera new cost between £30,000 and £40,000 and is a performance car.
A new set of four R1Rs cost a little under £800.

A Jaguar XF new costs between £30,000 and £40,000 and frankly, whilst nice, is a standard road car.
A new set of four for an XF is around £1000, even for the 2.2 diesel

Edited by QBee on Thursday 21st March 06:44

SILICONEKID350HP

14,997 posts

261 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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I`m saving for a set of Yokohama Advan Neova AD08`s .All the other car forums are shouting about them !

Good enough for the occasional track day and superb on the road ,they also come with over 9mm of tread and come in a full range of sizes .

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Yokohama/Advan-N...

Edited by SILICONEKID350HP on Thursday 21st March 22:39

jojackson4

Original Poster:

3,049 posts

167 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Next year then there will be some fancy rubber
Not enough work at the moment to blow £900 on boots
I would prefer to get some use out of the thing that has messed with my head 2 weeks till tax and a favour from a mate on a 4 wheel alignment bring on the sun

jev

391 posts

290 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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I had P Zeros on the Tamora and was distinctly unimpressed. I think Phazed is right - designed for a heavier car.

Can't believe it costs anything like £900 for a set of decent tyres on a Chimaera.


Alun450

12,424 posts

179 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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Yes I'd agree there too hard and need more weight on them to make em work. There bad for TVR's. I have a set on
My old wheels and I consider them a hazard.

Seeby have you considered the fact they caused your high spin at Bedford!!!!????

QBee

22,502 posts

174 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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C
jev said:
I had P Zeros on the Tamora and was distinctly unimpressed. I think Phazed is right - designed for a heavier car.

Can't believe it costs anything like £900 for a set of decent tyres on a Chimaera.
It costs about £800 for the best road legal track day tyres, but there are good compromises for far less.
Depends what you are planning on doing with your Chimaera.
If you are never, or only occasionally, going to track day it, then you want road tyres, not track tyres.
If you plan to drive it only in the dry, then the choice is different again.
Wet weather, you want standard all year 3series fare
Und so weiter, as the and so on so's in Germany would say.

db418BHP

8,676 posts

250 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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Federal RSRs are a cheaper trackday type tyre. Ive done a couple of thousand miles on mine. They seem ok but i can break them loose on the greasy roads quite easily. Not had a good chance to test them in good conditions yet. They are ok in the wet but you obviously have to give a little caution.

jamienshelly

1,826 posts

168 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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Out of curiosity, not having much knowledge in performance rubber on TVR's, I have Toyo proxes on the rear and they seem to have pretty good traction in the wet ( unless I am down on power) and Dunlop sp 9000 on the front, but are they any good for fast road / Track driving in the dry, as I prefer to exit the corner facing the right way and not end up backwards in a ditch.

phazed

22,509 posts

234 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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I did my first few TDs on T1Rs and was often facing the wrong way smile

You could induce power on/off over steer/under steer like crazy.

Switched to Triple 8s and all that is a memory.

My current R1Rs are better in the wet and similar in the dry, highly recommended!

ads

1,369 posts

287 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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I have dunlop sp9000's all round and find them good for road driving. Not as good at the original bridgestone S02PP's though. Wish they still made them frown

snorky

2,322 posts

281 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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A new set of four for an XF is around £1000, even for the 2.2 diesel

are they on 15" rims then ?????
else not really a comparison?

QBee

22,502 posts

174 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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snorky said:
A new set of four for an XF is around £1000, even for the 2.2 diesel

are they on 15" rims then ?????
else not really a comparison?
Firstly, I do know what you are getting at. Fair question to ask.

But a tyre is a tyre, surely? You need four and that's that.
The main pricing difference isn't so much the size, its the profile of the tyres IIRC.
The lower the profile, the more they think you can afford to pay for them.
People who have sporty cars want the best and are prepared to pay for the privilege. So they are prepared to charge for the privilege too.

My Chimaera is on 17 and 18 inch SP12s anyway with its 888s. Toyo R888 for the rears are £196 plus fitting., the Fronts are around £170 plus fitting each.

My 15/16 Imolas are for the winter road jobbies. So its not that unfair a comparison.

I don't remember if the XF is on 18s, 19s, or 20s, I just remember seeing the bill in my client's accounts.

And while I am being pedantic, I have just looked it up on the computer and the four tyres fitted to the 2.2 diesel XF on 20th Feb were £1140 inc VAT

phazed

22,509 posts

234 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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I am sure the reasoning behind fitting tyres that are, (and I use the term loosely) budget is because our TVRs have become affordable and often a second or third car.

Now this doesn't mean that we are made of money, often the opposite hence questions involving "TVR tax".

So while we do our best to run our cars at a sensible cost, a tyre is our only contact with mother earth so I'll buy the best I can.