Timeless classic! (LR Defender)
Timeless classic! (LR Defender)
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sider

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2,061 posts

252 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Passed one of these on the M6 this morning, a black 62 plate one:



Made me think - no matter how much TATA come up with strategies for LR and promise lots of new models, i just think and hope that this vehicle cannot be removed from sale!

It's a timeless classic - and to me, became 'dated' around 30 years+ ago - so much so that it's beyond dated now to the point where it just isn't - if you get me!?

Seem to be quite 'fashionable' now - as opposed to the 90s where they were farmer trucks and the fashionable folk were wafting about in Discoverys and Rangeys.

As long as LR can keep up with EU regulations with it, and sell their other stuff to keep profits coming, i think that this vehicle will still be selling succesfully in 20 years time!

Just wish i could justify buying one - not sure they're suited for 35k a year drivers though!


ewenm

28,506 posts

276 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Unfortunately for your dream, LR are looking to replace the Defender. The DC100 concept was shown a while ago, but I think it has gone back to the drawing board.

CAPP0

20,881 posts

234 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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I seem to recall that when the DC100 was canned, there was talk of the Defender remaining in the line-up, possibly a reduced choice of types, or something like that?

I've just bought a V8 Defender, about a month ago, and it's great! When the DC100 was announced, it did occur to me that buying one of the very last Defenders might be a good thing to do from a (future) financial point of view! wink

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

221 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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sider said:
Passed one of these on the M6 this morning, a black 62 plate one:


Made me think - no matter how much TATA come up with strategies for LR and promise lots of new models, i just think and hope that this vehicle cannot be removed from sale!

It's a timeless classic - and to me, became 'dated' around 30 years+ ago - so much so that it's beyond dated now to the point where it just isn't - if you get me!?

Seem to be quite 'fashionable' now - as opposed to the 90s where they were farmer trucks and the fashionable folk were wafting about in Discoverys and Rangeys.

As long as LR can keep up with EU regulations with it, and sell their other stuff to keep profits coming, i think that this vehicle will still be selling succesfully in 20 years time!

Just wish i could justify buying one - not sure they're suited for 35k a year drivers though!
Not sure how a Defender was dated 30 years ago considering the Defender was introduced until 1990. Even if you aren't being picky the coil sprung Ninety and One Ten were new in 1983...... 30 years this year. So it'd pretty dumb to call them dated then.

Mileage should be fine on them, although 35,000 miles a year is pretty excessive by anyones reckoning...

My Uncle has 5 90's/Defenders. One is at approx 260,000 miles, another on 220,000 miles and one more well over 160,000 miles.

As for staying in production, probably, but likely to built over seas and not type approved for the UK market.

What LR should have done while under Ford ownership was 'steal' the modern hydroformed chassis from the F150 pick up truck and the strong Dana axles used on F250 class trucks. And built a modern version of the Defender with the bits.

Jeep did it in 2005 with the Wrangler, a 100% new vehicle. LR have just been lazy...

ikarl

4,070 posts

230 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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300bhp/ton said:
sider said:
Passed one of these on the M6 this morning, a black 62 plate one:


Made me think - no matter how much TATA come up with strategies for LR and promise lots of new models, i just think and hope that this vehicle cannot be removed from sale!

It's a timeless classic - and to me, became 'dated' around 30 years+ ago - so much so that it's beyond dated now to the point where it just isn't - if you get me!?

Seem to be quite 'fashionable' now - as opposed to the 90s where they were farmer trucks and the fashionable folk were wafting about in Discoverys and Rangeys.

As long as LR can keep up with EU regulations with it, and sell their other stuff to keep profits coming, i think that this vehicle will still be selling succesfully in 20 years time!

Just wish i could justify buying one - not sure they're suited for 35k a year drivers though!
Not sure how a Defender was dated 30 years ago considering the Defender was introduced until 1990. Even if you aren't being picky the coil sprung Ninety and One Ten were new in 1983...... 30 years this year. So it'd pretty dumb to call them dated then.

Mileage should be fine on them, although 35,000 miles a year is pretty excessive by anyones reckoning...

My Uncle has 5 90's/Defenders. One is at approx 260,000 miles, another on 220,000 miles and one more well over 160,000 miles.

As for staying in production, probably, but likely to built over seas and not type approved for the UK market.

What LR should have done while under Ford ownership was 'steal' the modern hydroformed chassis from the F150 pick up truck and the strong Dana axles used on F250 class trucks. And built a modern version of the Defender with the bits.

Jeep did it in 2005 with the Wrangler, a 100% new vehicle. LR have just been lazy...
OP - I know what you meant and I agree with you

300 - I believe the OP was relating the current defender to the 'series'. I'm pretty sure you knew what he meant!
rolleyes

sider

Original Poster:

2,061 posts

252 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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ikarl said:
OP - I know what you meant and I agree with you

300 - I believe the OP was relating the current defender to the 'series'. I'm pretty sure you knew what he meant!
rolleyes
Thanks....

Yes, aware of the concept model and it seems to have been on the cards for years.

But i suppose all i was saying was that new model or not, call this one the 'Classic Edition' or something, and i'd still see people buying in for many years to come!

ewenm

28,506 posts

276 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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ikarl said:
OP - I know what you meant and I agree with you

300 - I believe the OP was relating the current defender to the 'series'. I'm pretty sure you knew what he meant!
rolleyes
yes Land Rover afficionados can get very picky about Series vs 90/110 vs Defender etc.

ikarl

4,070 posts

230 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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ewenm said:
yes Land Rover afficionados can get very picky about Series vs 90/110 vs Defender etc.
agreed, but calling the OP dumb for not knowing the difference.... well, not needed in my opinion.

300 has a wealth of knowledge, I just wish he'd share it in a better manner at times.

ewenm

28,506 posts

276 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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thumbup

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

221 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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ikarl said:
300 has a wealth of knowledge, I just wish he'd share it in a better manner at times.
Me too, honestly.

ikarl said:
agreed, but calling the OP dumb for not knowing the difference.... well, not needed in my opinion.
In my mind the insult wasn't to the op personally, just their statement for saying a "Defender" would have looked dated in 1983, when I'm sure it actually looked pine fresh.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

227 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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I've often thought a Porsche 993 & defender would be my perfect pairing.