Diagnostic help on S-Max 2.5T
Diagnostic help on S-Max 2.5T
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NDT

Original Poster:

1,766 posts

286 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Car hesitates slightly at part throttle.
Idles OK, runs on boost ok.

I have had a diagnostics specialist look at the car and his view is:
- The long term fuel trim is leaning the mixture out - i.e. it's running rich at some point and this is causing the trim to change.
- both lambdas working OK
- MAF and MAP working OK
- fuel rail pressure OK and injectors OK

He now thinks it's the variable vanes on the throttle which have stuck open, causing a lack of boost at part throttle.
I'm slightly baffled by this - I can see why might cause a part-throttle hesitation but not why it would make the mixture rich. I would assume that the MAF would correct for the lack of air flow? Or is there a transient fuelling thing going on which would send it rich?

Does anyone have any thoughts?

NDT

Original Poster:

1,766 posts

286 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Heaven help us, now he reckons it's the wideband lambda after all...

NDT

Original Poster:

1,766 posts

286 months

Wednesday 30th April 2014
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Just in case it ever helps anyone on here - eventually I changed the MAF and all was well again.
Despite the idiot technician insisting the MAF was OK...

anonymous-user

77 months

Wednesday 30th April 2014
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Please tell me it didn't take over a year to fix it!!

crossy67

1,570 posts

202 months

Wednesday 30th April 2014
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Fairly common problem with MAF equipped cars. As I see it (might well be wrong) they run on closed loop up to a point round about full boost is developed then they switch to map ignoring the MAF.

Tell me if I'm wrong please.

NDT

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Thursday 8th May 2014
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Dave_ST220 said:
Please tell me it didn't take over a year to fix it!!
No (not quite!).
Was a niggle rather than a massive problem.

NDT

Original Poster:

1,766 posts

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Thursday 8th May 2014
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crossy67 said:
Fairly common problem with MAF equipped cars. As I see it (might well be wrong) they run on closed loop up to a point round about full boost is developed then they switch to map ignoring the MAF.

Tell me if I'm wrong please.
I thought MAF was used in both open and closed loop?

crossy67

1,570 posts

202 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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That's why I said tell me if I'm wrong.;) I suppose every vehicle is different.