Petrol Russian roulette - how does this work
Petrol Russian roulette - how does this work
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Pistom

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6,427 posts

190 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Im sure we've all done it, trying to eek out the last few miles out of a tank but I don't know how I've done this. I've just been driving a new Honda Accord hire car. The petrol light came on and I thought I could do a few more miles. I then do a few more and a few more still. By this time I'm starting to get worried and desperate but there's no petrol stations, then I see one but it's on the other side of a duel carriageway and nowhere to turn.

The needle is below empty and I'm pretty sure I'm done for. Then I see the petrol station. I make it in with the engine still running.

I fill the car up 70.33 litres. I then think, that must have been close, I wonder what the capacity is. Getting the handbook out, I find its 65 litres!

How does that happen?


andy-xr

13,204 posts

235 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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You've probably filled up the filler pipe and gone right up to the top of the tank, it'll have been calculated on just under brimming based on size dimensions

TaRD

778 posts

218 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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I guess it's got a reserve tank?

Willy Holloughby

253 posts

174 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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That'll be the extra bit that spunks out of the nozzle when you remove it from tank.

CypherP

4,456 posts

223 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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andy-xr said:
You've probably filled up the filler pipe and gone right up to the top of the tank, it'll have been calculated on just under brimming based on size dimensions
Could a filler pipe really hold 5 litres of fuel? In my mind, it couldn't but I'm likely dead wrong.

tonyvid

9,889 posts

274 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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When you think that the tank is probably under the rear seat this makes the pipe about 1m long so, yep, easliy hold an extra 5l or so smile

toohuge

3,501 posts

247 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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I think as mentioned above, that was the reserve tank that you filled up too.

Chris

illmonkey

19,830 posts

229 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Hows about this: I put 7 litres into a 5 litre jerry can a few weeks ago.

CypherP

4,456 posts

223 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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tonyvid said:
When you think that the tank is probably under the rear seat this makes the pipe about 1m long so, yep, easliy hold an extra 5l or so smile
I thought I'd be wrong smile

Thanks for clarifying!

Melman Giraffe

6,794 posts

249 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Petrol station ripped you off, Maybe

onesickpuppy

2,672 posts

188 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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toohuge said:
I think as mentioned above, that was the reserve tank that you filled up too.

Chris
What 'reserve tank'?

dazzztay

447 posts

212 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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The manufacturers also round the figures on their spec sheets and pr material to look nice. The tank might indeed be 66.73L or 67.19L but they would round down up or down to whatever the marketing department thought looked nice!

Still - i take your point, you were rather close to pushing!

Cyder

7,190 posts

251 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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onesickpuppy said:
toohuge said:
I think as mentioned above, that was the reserve tank that you filled up too.

Chris
What 'reserve tank'?
No such thing as a reserve tank on most (all?) cars.

The 'reserve' people refer to is that the fuel light or zero miles is set to come while you've may still have a gallon or so left in the tank.

Manufacturers tank size quoting often aren't very accurate.

skyrover

12,700 posts

235 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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pretty sure tank sizes are fairly rough...

My jeeps low fuel light comes on when trip computer says roughly 30 miles till empty.

I have managed to drive another 40 miles after that trip meter said 0 miles till empty and still not run out of petrol.

To this day I have not managed to run out, despite my best efforts.

SMGB

790 posts

170 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Fuel warms up in your tank after coming out of underground storage cold, esp if you park in the sun. This means it expands and so there is an expansion space in the tank. You can fill this if you trickle in the last few litres but you may get fuel leaking out forming a fire hazard as well as costing you when it warms up.
If you are going a istance then its a useful trick to fill this space as it gives you more range with no risk as you will burn it off before you can lose it. otherwise, dont. Back in the day we used to have a daft ageing tart at a local garage who always filled the expansion space and you couldnt tell her, I stoppped going there when I saw her ancient Jag parked there meaning I would wake up to fuel staining the car.
Oh for completness.
It was a Mk 10 as all good PH ers will want to know.

Pistom

Original Poster:

6,427 posts

190 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Yes I was close to pushing and in the middle of nowhere. Not the smartest thing I've done recently.

I can't see petrol stations these days being so far out but I can see manufacturers understating tank size.

real4star

7,032 posts

168 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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What some people refer to as the 'reserve' on some cars is just a slope or step in the bottom of the tank, something like this



The light comes on when the float hits the bottom of the thin end of the tank but you have a few more litres at the deep end.

anonymous-user

85 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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you'll be wanting this website perhaps...
http://tankonempty.com/

Pistom

Original Poster:

6,427 posts

190 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Love it - and have you seen what car is most active. That's right Honda Accord.

There are some days when it all just goes right!

750turbo

6,164 posts

255 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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real4star said:
What some people refer to as the 'reserve' on some cars is just a slope or step in the bottom of the tank, something like this



The light comes on when the float hits the bottom of the thin end of the tank but you have a few more litres at the deep end.
I would hazard a guess and say that they honestly thought they had a reserve tank...

Not the sensible stuff you just posted up there ^^^^^

Might be wrong...