Octavia weights 1180kg? 1.4 version 0-60 in 8sec. Really?

[jurek4u]

Driving BMW 325 E90 on a daily basis I am shocked by how Czech+German combo created a bigger car than mine that has similar acceleration from a 1.4 engine. and is roughly 300kg lighter


How come?

[GroundEffect]

Less stuff in it, more efficient body design?

Oh and FWD vs RWD - FWD is lighter

[HustleRussell]

I suspect you'd immediately understand if you drove one

[Redbaron1973]

One has a pig iron 3.0 n/a 6 one has a very light alloy 1.4 with turbo... it isnt rocket science?

[The Vambo]

I think the E90 was designed right at the peak of the trend of rising car weights, since then most replacement models have been lighter than the model they supersede.

[jurek4u]

Apparently 325 has one of the lightest 6 cylinder engines ever produced...

Understand everything but still under 1.2 tons for a barge?

[kambites]

There's not much different in size between the E90 and mk2 Octavia (at least on the outside) - the Octavia is marginally longer and higher but narrower.

The Octavia isn't really a barge - it's a Golf with a foot of boot stuck on the back; I suspect the extra boot only adds a few tens of kg. ETA: about 35kg by the looks of it.

Edited by kambites on Wednesday 20th March 18:12

[SebastienClement]

jurek4u said:

Apparently 325 has one of the lightest 6 cylinder engines ever produced...

Understand everything but still under 1.2 tons for a barge?

I can't see how a 3 series or octavia is a barge.

Look at the specs for the new turbocharged small capacity motors... they seem to be doing very well.

[Gad-Westy]

Redbaron1973 said:

One has a pig iron 3.0 n/a 6 one has a very light alloy 1.4 with turbo... it isnt rocket science?

The 325 has an all alloy engine as have nearly all six cylinder BMW's for a number of years. Rocket science indeed!

[Gooly]

I dont think BMW have made an iron block 6 since the M50, since then they've all been alloy.

[jurek4u]

The Vambo said:

I think the E90 was designed right at the peak of the trend of rising car weights, since then most replacement models have been lighter than the model they supersede.

I honestly do not know where this weight sits. Have been to a few trackdays and on one occasion the anti-roll bar link cracked and split. When I got it out of suspension... I swear it did not weigh anything (contrary to an otherwise solid replacement). So suspension is ultra light, what is heavy then?

Edited by jurek4u on Wednesday 20th March 19:37

Edited by jurek4u on Wednesday 20th March 19:37