Have you got your nuts!
Have you got your nuts!
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Mr Tank

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5,799 posts

305 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Hi

Well have you got your drive shaft nuts done up!

Yes they are a pain when they come undone and have you had trouble finding new nuts, so have drilled the nut and shaft to stop them coming undone!

I have done three sets of drive shaft this year and have had to drill and pin two sets as I could not find a replacment set untill yesterday when Neil at ML parts found me a set at (Adam I hope you are sitting down!) yikes£16,50 each + Vat and P&P so in total a set for the car cost nearly yikesyikes£40!!!!!!!!!

Because of this price and the fact I found it hard to get replacment, in fact some people can not even identify what they come from.
I have found a somebody who will make them for me off course a one off set is even more stupied money, but if I can get enought wedgers wanting a set then the price comes down to around £20 a set & P&P or maybe £20 all in.

The nuts are to the same stanadard as used originaly!

So the question is does anybody want a set!

Andy




Edited by Mr Tank on Thursday 21st March 13:01

Henry Harris

566 posts

229 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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I found this to be a key area of maintenance.

I noticed a grumbling sound when steering to the right. On investigation, the nut was spinning on the shaft. What had happen was that the split pin had come out, the thread was worn through around the split pin hole area as the shaft had been drilled more than once.

Please take care.

mrzigazaga

18,816 posts

195 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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What about using some loctite/thread lock as recommended for the hub nut..Drilling threads does weaken them..I remember when i first got mine there was a couple of them missing and rooodboy had some the correct size that he kindly fitted..Ziga

Mr Tank

Original Poster:

5,799 posts

305 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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mrzigazaga said:
What about using some loctite/thread lock as recommended for the hub nut..Drilling threads does weaken them..I remember when i first got mine there was a couple of them missing and rooodboy had some the correct size that he kindly fitted..Ziga
Mark

Who recomended using loctite/thread lock?

mrzigazaga

18,816 posts

195 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Im not one for naming names but its in a well known guide for wedges!..It was mentioned that the loctite stops the hub nut from vibrating loose.

Mr Tank

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5,799 posts

305 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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mrzigazaga said:
Im not one for naming names but its in a well known guide for wedges!..It was mentioned that the loctite stops the hub nut from vibrating loose.
O! the idiots guide, the same one which shows the Hub nut being tightend up and he is using a piece of flimsy shelf racking as a extension for his ratchet arm. Enough said!

adam quantrill

11,679 posts

272 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Yes, I keep them next to my monitor:



Wow 40 squids a set - well I haven't lost one yet with the split-pinning technique I perfected the shaft only gets drilled once and then you keep re-using the same hole.

On the other hand if you are getting them made then why not get castellated ones which makes it even easier?

Are your ones gonna have the nyloc insert or not? I think nyloc is probably a waste of time and you end up with less metal thread = a weaker solution.

Danny Hoffman

1,617 posts

292 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Hi,

Has anyone got the exact dimensions? I'd be amazed if they can't be sourced off the web somewhere.

Danny

Mr Tank

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5,799 posts

305 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Hi Adam

Sorry they are ny-lock as per original.

It appears they made the original nuts.

They are a Jag item!

Andy

Mr Tank

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Thursday 21st March 2013
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Danny Hoffman said:
Hi,

Has anyone got the exact dimensions? I'd be amazed if they can't be sourced off the web somewhere.

Danny
Hi Danny

I have tried to get them from the net and from all the local nut and bolt suppliers and they are a unusual thread and dimension!

Andy

Danny Hoffman

1,617 posts

292 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Mr Tank said:
They are a Jag item!
Hi Andy,

Do you know what Jag they are off?

Danny

mrzigazaga

18,816 posts

195 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Hi Andy..For what its worth you could try these guys that i use from time to time...If you dont see what you want they are worth calling...Ziga
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=m...

Danny Hoffman

1,617 posts

292 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Looks like this has been discussed before

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=3&a...

Ours looks different from the Jag one to me

Wedg1e

27,040 posts

295 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Danny Hoffman said:
Hi,

Has anyone got the exact dimensions? I'd be amazed if they can't be sourced off the web somewhere.

Danny
M22 x 1.25mm... which IIRC is 'Metric extra fine' for that diameter. I did find some years ago but they weren't Nyloc and I never fancied the idea of drilling a driveshaft. Problem with split pins is that they're soft and depending on what 'fretting' action is going on, the hub could sever them. Most tales of lost wheels are almost certainly down to re-using old Nylocs, incorrect hub reassembly technique or insufficient torque on the nut.

Loach1

437 posts

171 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Not a nylock, but good enough for the Viper:

https://www.viperpartsofamerica.com/index.php/prod...

keatsie

326 posts

194 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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How big an issues is this? Are the hub nuts prone to undoing?

Mr Tank

Original Poster:

5,799 posts

305 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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keatsie said:
How big an issues is this? Are the hub nuts prone to undoing?

Yes if the are reused nylock, young Paul lost a wheel at Caxton Gibet a little while ago!

keatsie

326 posts

194 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Ouch, another one for the list of checks!

adam quantrill

11,679 posts

272 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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Loach1 said:
Not a nylock, but good enough for the Viper:

https://www.viperpartsofamerica.com/index.php/prod...
$3 - that's more like it - I have an office in the US I can ship via.

It tends to be the driver's side that undoes by all accounts. The other side tends to get tighter. I do more mileage than most and I have re-used nylocs a number of times (I do check the metal thread is OK) and split pinned them with no problems. I only ever drill one hole through the driveshaft end and then reuse that every time. Yes theoretically the driveshaft is weaker, but on the other hand it's at the end where there's a nylon insert in the nut, so it hardly takes any strain.

I think the Viper ones will be fine as long as the thread is as deep.

Mr Tank

Original Poster:

5,799 posts

305 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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Hi

ranting Well the answers to my question have been answered in the usual way! I just can't believe the attitude by some wedge owners! Or is it there tightness or stupidness by them! The same goes with the brakes rather buy the correct new part make do with repair kits, or in this case use a nut which has no locking caperbilty because its cheaper or its been used once and then reused when its not designed to be! If you can't afford seven pounds between just a plain nut and a nut designed to lock to the shaft! I am surprised you can afford the fuel to drive them!

I will properly still get the 100 nuts (Min Order) as a TVR parts supply wants to buy them from me so he can charge £20 a nut to you!

ranting over!

Andy