Level crossing crash - again
Level crossing crash - again
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saaby93

Original Poster:

32,038 posts

209 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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What happened?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2296788/Dr...
Someone get bored waiting for the train not to arrive
oh it is here after all

simon1987

401 posts

166 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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To be honest I think its an ourtage that motorists have to stop and wait for a train anyway.

They at most only seem to have about 5 people on and easily hold up 30 cars in each direction.

why not just do away with the rail system all together? Its not 1850 any more!


andym1603

1,885 posts

203 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Automatic crossing, Train driver said barriers were down -- Natural selection.

Big Fat Fatty

3,315 posts

187 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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simon1987 said:
To be honest I think its an ourtage that motorists have to stop and wait for a train anyway.

They at most only seem to have about 5 people on and easily hold up 30 cars in each direction.

why not just do away with the rail system all together? Its not 1850 any more!
Feel free to cross the barriers at your leisure. Outrage?! what are you like?

Charlie Foxtrot

3,300 posts

246 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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What a dumb way to die.

e320dave

685 posts

182 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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One less idiot. WHen are some people going to learn that barriers are there for a reason. At least this time it was only the idot at the wheel that died. Next time it could be innocent people as well.

surveyor

18,705 posts

215 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Like the last time we'll need to wait and see what happened.

As I've read it they have eye witnesses this time though.

If he did not fancy the wait it clearly has not worked out for him/her.

busta

4,504 posts

264 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Some local chap said:
'It's a very fast crossing,' he said. 'Once the barriers go down the train is there within 30 seconds.
Is that quick? I'd have though 30 seconds was plenty enough warning.

andy-xr

13,204 posts

235 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Anyone seen the photos on the news? I know it's never going to be pretty if you're up against a train but jesus, there wasnt much left of the car frown

Nickyboy

6,825 posts

265 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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No doubt Network Rail will get the blame as usual.

Although, i can understand why people want to chance it. Sat at a crossing a couple of days ago that i know well, 2 full speed lines. Barriers were down when i got there, sat for 4 mins before an HST came from the West, 30 secs later another came from the East, barriers stayed down confused A train just each way so lines are clear, 6 mins later a freight train appeared on the West line, HST doing probably 100mph, freight train doing maybe 50 max, i don't know the criteria for signals and crossings but surely after 2 trains have passed the lines are clear for a set time, its not like they are tailgating each other. Luckily it is only a village crossing albeit a busy one.

Si.P

44 posts

269 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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I work for the railway carrying out maintenance on the trains and have seen a couple of trains that have hit cars and its not pretty. There is normally some minor damage to the train (although still over £20k) but the cars get destroyed bearing in mind a train weighing 160 ton travelling at 50mph not a lot will stop it.
Its the train drivers that I feel sorry for though as they have to live with it for the rest of their lives

J4CKO

47,038 posts

231 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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You can almost envisage the thought process,

"God this is taking ages, im in a Hurry, wheres the flippin train"

"Oh this is beyond a joke, I wonder if I could nip round these barriers"

"It will be fine, I will be across in a couple of seconds"

"Here we go, I cant see a Tra......"


Thats an Inter City 125 type thing, would have perhaps stood a chance (of getting across) with a slower moving one but they, as per the name travel at up to 125 mph.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

286 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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simon1987 said:
To be honest I think its an ourtage that motorists have to stop and wait for a train anyway.

They at most only seem to have about 5 people on and easily hold up 30 cars in each direction.

why not just do away with the rail system all together? Its not 1850 any more!
Not sure if this is trolling or just amazing stupidity?

Big Fat Fatty

3,315 posts

187 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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I thought that when railways came within a certain distance of roads or built up areas they had speed limits of 75mph, even so as already said a train weighing 150+ tonnes travelling at that speed isn't very forgiving. +1 who feels for the train drivers.

Mr2Mike said:
Not sure if this is trolling or just amazing stupidity?
Judging by his recent threads/posts I'd bet on the latter.

speedking31

3,960 posts

167 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Similar to when you're waiting to pull out at a T-junction. You see a fairly big gap in traffic, but let it go, then regret it, as time passes the gap required to pull out into becomes smaller and smaller smile Human nature.

Devil2575

13,400 posts

219 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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simon1987 said:
To be honest I think its an ourtage that motorists have to stop and wait for a train anyway.

They at most only seem to have about 5 people on and easily hold up 30 cars in each direction.

why not just do away with the rail system all together? Its not 1850 any more!
Are you really that stupid or just trolling?

Fartgalen

6,935 posts

238 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Mr2Mike said:
simon1987 said:
To be honest I think its an ourtage that motorists have to stop and wait for a train anyway.

They at most only seem to have about 5 people on and easily hold up 30 cars in each direction.

why not just do away with the rail system all together? Its not 1850 any more!
Not sure if this is trolling or just amazing stupidity?
I'm going to hazard a guess at the latter.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

235 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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Nickyboy said:
No doubt Network Rail will get the blame as usual.

Although, i can understand why people want to chance it. Sat at a crossing a couple of days ago that i know well, 2 full speed lines. Barriers were down when i got there, sat for 4 mins before an HST came from the West, 30 secs later another came from the East, barriers stayed down confused A train just each way so lines are clear, 6 mins later a freight train appeared on the West line, HST doing probably 100mph, freight train doing maybe 50 max, i don't know the criteria for signals and crossings but surely after 2 trains have passed the lines are clear for a set time, its not like they are tailgating each other. Luckily it is only a village crossing albeit a busy one.
You'd risk instant death against a time saving of 4 mins? Ask yourself, what will you do if you get where you're going 4 mins earlier? Surely nothing which justifies the risk to yourself and others.


Krikkit

27,941 posts

212 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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mrmr96 said:
Nickyboy said:
No doubt Network Rail will get the blame as usual.

Although, i can understand why people want to chance it. Sat at a crossing a couple of days ago that i know well, 2 full speed lines. Barriers were down when i got there, sat for 4 mins before an HST came from the West, 30 secs later another came from the East, barriers stayed down confused A train just each way so lines are clear, 6 mins later a freight train appeared on the West line, HST doing probably 100mph, freight train doing maybe 50 max, i don't know the criteria for signals and crossings but surely after 2 trains have passed the lines are clear for a set time, its not like they are tailgating each other. Luckily it is only a village crossing albeit a busy one.
You'd risk instant death against a time saving of 4 mins? Ask yourself, what will you do if you get where you're going 4 mins earlier? Surely nothing which justifies the risk to yourself and others.
No, he probably wouldn't - he saw two trains pass and waited despite the barriers being down. Having said that I can empathise with people who get stuck at level crossings all the time getting frustrated and chancing it.

CraigyMc

18,373 posts

267 months

Thursday 21st March 2013
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simon1987 said:
To be honest I think its an ourtage that motorists have to stop and wait for a train anyway.

They at most only seem to have about 5 people on and easily hold up 30 cars in each direction.

why not just do away with the rail system all together? Its not 1850 any more!
Possibly I'm missing an enormous whoosh parrot here, but in case I'm not:

The train I use to get to London is 10 carriages of 78 seats, and is standing room only every morning.
There are 4 such trains an hour, all full from 6am to about 9.30am. Even after that the trains are usually full.

C