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weatherboard

Original Poster:

112 posts

291 months

Friday 24th September 2004
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Anybody on here had any experience of their Cats breaking down?

I Suspect that my 98 4.5 is suffering from blocked Cats (decrease in noise, lack of response and heavy fuel consumption), but before blowing loads on new ones it would be good if I could confirm some of the symptoms.

Also if anybody has some thoughts on where to source new ones from that would be much appreciated - have seen a website which offers Ceramic Cats for the Cerb at £309 a pop!!!!!

Cheers

Jon

jasonben

153 posts

261 months

Friday 24th September 2004
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Just had mine decatted by TVR Power in Cov.

I had massive acceleration problems and changed the whole HT part of the car to find out it was a broken down cat!!! Dom at TVR Power has some decatted cats that he can fit to your car.

It flies now so would DEFINATELY recommend you have it done! (Its a lot louder now too!)

flashheart

581 posts

265 months

Friday 24th September 2004
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Please excuse my ignorance but what happens at MOT time? Do you have to put them back on for the emissions/noise??

Yours head-in-the-sandingly

Flash

shell

148 posts

288 months

Friday 24th September 2004
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Act engineering or Jp exhausts in Macclesfield. Dont think you will go wrong there, i could be mistaken though!

jasonben

153 posts

261 months

Friday 24th September 2004
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There are TVR friendly MOT centres!!!!

And you must sort the cats out because the difference in performance for my car was incredible!

davidd

6,668 posts

307 months

Friday 24th September 2004
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If your cats are ok then there will be very little improvement in de catting, it will sound a lot better though.

If your cats have broken down then you will have an issue, to resolve this you must replace or bypass.

D

daver

1,209 posts

307 months

Friday 24th September 2004
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Or you can have some replacements made. See www.autocats.com/html/tvr_frame.htm

If I recall, TVR use Emitec substrates that are 400 cells per square inch which makes them quite heavy and exacerbates the problem of them disintegrating around the outside (due to their own mass). Also, the original Cerbera cats use 2 substrate sections per cat (each one being 105mm dia., 74.5mm long).

Blackthorn use a French manufacturer's 200 cell per square inch substrates who does them in ths same 105mm diameter, but 90mm sections - of which they use just one (per cat) and make up the length difference (59mm) with 105mm tubing. The result is obviously lighter and puts less stress on the outer foil. It also offers higher gas throughput, but obviously with less cat-effect, i.e. higher emissions.

J_S_G

6,177 posts

273 months

Friday 24th September 2004
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flashheart said:
Please excuse my ignorance but what happens at MOT time? Do you have to put them back on for the emissions/noise??

As already said, you can find places that'll accidentally put the emissions probe up the rear end of a Scooby. Or you can put the knackered cats back in for 10 minutes (an hour or so job to take off/put back on), as long as they're still having some effect. I think you actually only need to get one pipe tested, so might not even need to bother refitting both cats (will probably depend on how friendly the MOT station is, again).

Or you could get a Speed 6, take the cats out, and still have it pass the emissions test...

jasonben

153 posts

261 months

Friday 24th September 2004
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daver said:
Or you can have some replacements made. See www.autocats.com/html/tvr_frame.htm

If I recall, TVR use Emitec substrates that are 400 cells per square inch which makes them quite heavy and exacerbates the problem of them disintegrating around the outside (due to their own mass). Also, the original Cerbera cats use 2 substrate sections per cat (each one being 105mm dia., 74.5mm long).

Blackthorn use a French manufacturer's 200 cell per square inch substrates who does them in ths same 105mm diameter, but 90mm sections - of which they use just one (per cat) and make up the length difference (59mm) with 105mm tubing. The result is obviously lighter and puts less stress on the outer foil. It also offers higher gas throughput, but obviously with less cat-effect, i.e. higher emissions.


I Thought So!!!!!!!!

weatherboard

Original Poster:

112 posts

291 months

Friday 24th September 2004
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Thanks guys - spoken to Andy at APM and he has a "local" source who may be able to help. I will keep you posted as to what happens.

Cheers

Jon

gazzab

21,558 posts

305 months

Friday 24th September 2004
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Say hello to Andy from Gary !

beemer

378 posts

281 months

Friday 24th September 2004
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gazzab said:
Say hello to Andy from Gary !


..and from me!

cheers
sean

TooTall Paul

938 posts

270 months

Friday 24th September 2004
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I've just replaced my cats for the straight through version and it seems to run a lot smoother (not as lumpy!!) plus its LOUD!!!!!

B19TOY

543 posts

307 months

Saturday 25th September 2004
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TooTall Paul said:
I've just replaced my cats for the straight through version and it seems to run a lot smoother (not as lumpy!!) plus its LOUD!!!!!


Flames and thunder eh.......

TooTall Paul

938 posts

270 months

Sunday 26th September 2004
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B19TOY said:

TooTall Paul said:
I've just replaced my cats for the straight through version and it seems to run a lot smoother (not as lumpy!!) plus its LOUD!!!!!



Flames and thunder eh.......


I need someone else to drive it now so i can experience the flames