Any recommendations on retrofitting a 964 aircon kit?

[Vpsteve]

Just thinking about the summer arriving..... Anyone got a view on this ?

I'm looking for advice on whether its feasible to retrofit OE equipment, whether its the right thing as technology moves on, any non OE kits out there that are well made and the experience is good. Any Porsche specialists who can do it?

Sorry for the multi question ...I I have great car...but this is its Achilles heel for summer enjoyment

Thanks for any experience you have

[Wozy68]

Vpsteve said:

Just thinking about the summer arriving..... Anyone got a view on this ?

I'm looking for advice on whether its feasible to retrofit OE equipment, whether its the right thing as technology moves on, any non OE kits out there that are well made and the experience is good. Any Porsche specialists who can do it?

Sorry for the multi question ...I I have great car...but this is its Achilles heel for summer enjoyment

Thanks for any experience you have

Not done it, but I'm guessing eye watering costs involved. I'm sure I read that you can spend upwards of 2K on just getting the 993 aircon system working correctly for example if it goes badly wrong (I believe its just about the same system used in the 964), let alone installing it from scratch.

Best of luck though.

[A911DOM]

I asked the same question re my 3.2 with my regular indi, his answer went something like:

Well you could, but the likelihood is it will burn out again, and its not as effective in comparison to modern equipment anyway. Could be pricey to try!

I guess I better get the passenger side window rail fixed so I've got plenty of airflow then....

[Vpsteve]

Thanks guys ...having done a trawl on the interweb Clayton Classics gets thrown up....looks interesting on the link below ...ill ask the question

Anyone know them ?


http://claytonclassics.co.uk/what-we-offer/74-pors...

[A911DOM]

Interesting, let us know how you get on.

Unfortunately (for me) it does seem to be specific to the 964...

[mollytherocker]

You want to add weight to your 964 because it gets a bit warm in hot weather?

Have a word with yourself and Man up!

[A911DOM]

and get some shares in 'Lynx'....

Anyway - surely its only like for like swap = no weight loss/gain!?

[mollytherocker]

A911DOM said:

and get some shares in 'Lynx'....

Anyway - surely its only like for like swap = no weight loss/gain!?

Jackal removed his air con system from his 993 and I think the saving was something like 30kg?

[Vpsteve]

I guess I expected some grief.....never mind, after wading through the weight distribution issues and the mass centralisation arguements (did I swallow the Cayman launch blurb and the Honda Fireblade design brief?),i'm thinking I can trade this for junking some of the std exhaust, and ban the missus from the passenger seat.... getting a cool, demisted,aurally delightful car at a 50 kg net benefit. Fair exchange is no robbery....

[Sifly]

most 964's came with a sunroof, it's a big hole in the roof you can open when the sun comes out! You should try it, it adds to the retro experience

If you need the comfort of air-con in order to enjoy your porsche, maybe the 964 is a bad choice?

Mine has A/C, but it's never worked properly and I can't see the point in throwing large amounts of money at it when it would probably hardly ever get used anyway.
Sunroof and windows open, and enjoy the sound of the flat six

Edited by Sifly on Sunday 24th March 15:09

[clockworks]

The A/C works fine on my 964, although I do prefer having the sunroof open if possible.
Not nice driving with he windows open, as the wind noise gets a little tiresome.

Must be getting old, as I used to drive everywhere with the windows open when I first got a car 35 years ago.

[Vpsteve]

Thanks for the views ill wait and see what services are offered as its less about cool and more about the two-up misting up on cold rainy nights.....the cabin is sufficiently small to make it an issue ( and yes I've checked for leaks and it is garaged)...always gets worse this time of year hence the thinking....and I can't be done with driving with windows open all the time either. Thanks for letting me know I'm not alone...

[harry kular]

I remember reading about these guys a few years back in 911&PW

Seem to have a good reputation with Porsches....

http://www.coolit-ac.co.uk/air%20conditioning.htm

[SalesManager]

I was mulling this over too. The reality is that I don't drive it often enough for it to be a necessity. Its nice doing it the old fashioned way with the windows down, sunroof open and human league on the stereo.

If you do retrofit it will be expensive and you'll have to use modern hoses which make it effective.

[Vpsteve]

Human league!......what happened to the inkspots

[Wozy68]

Vpsteve said:

Thanks for the views ill wait and see what services are offered as its less about cool and more about the two-up misting up on cold rainy nights.....the cabin is sufficiently small to make it an issue ( and yes I've checked for leaks and it is garaged)...always gets worse this time of year hence the thinking....and I can't be done with driving with windows open all the time either. Thanks for letting me know I'm not alone...

If you can, go for it. I was in 35 degrees plus heat 2 years ago with all the windows open and the sunroof out in a 968CS. I was bloody cooked, and to add insult to injury got sunburn through the removed sunroof.

Last summer I was in Cordoba in 100 degree heat in my 993. I'd just had the aircon serviced. It worked damn well and kept my wife and I cool. It would not have been nice without it.

Worth the weight gain ...... and to keep the interior cool/demisted IMO.

[Vpsteve]

harry kular said:

I remember reading about these guys a few years back in 911&PW

Seem to have a good reputation with Porsches....

http://www.coolit-ac.co.uk/air%20conditioning.htm

Thanks for this ill give them a call

[bigfoot57]

harry kular said:

I remember reading about these guys a few years back in 911&PW

Seem to have a good reputation with Porsches....

http://www.coolit-ac.co.uk/air%20conditioning.htm

+1

I used Cool It a few years ago after my 968 baked us on the way to a summer Silverstone track day. It was a great example of a 968 but had no air con - and an open sunroof and windows on the M3 just let in air at 30 degrees and a heap of noise....

The guys at Cool It installed a combination of reclaimed original dash and other parts plus new kit under the bonnet where necessary to produce a result which looked completely pukka and worked like a dream.

[phelix]

What did you find out?

[Vpsteve]

Good convesation with Coolit, and an outline estimate from Clayton Classics. To sum up as follows:

Overall price will be between £2500 and £3500 depending on whether I can source second hand kit as there is as much cost in ancilliaries as there is in the bigger components. The Clayton Classics sounds more bespoke and they have a car there owned by a director...its 964 only I think.

Doing the job is extensive and accounts for about £1700+ in labour and parts...needs lines front to rear and installation of heat exchanger (s) under front wheel arch.

I'm sure it all will work as they both come with good fact based knowledge but I think at that price and effort I'm going to live in another summer before I make a decision

Hope that helps .... Steve