Alfa GT Junior for year-round use?
Alfa GT Junior for year-round use?
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sunbeam alpine

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7,212 posts

209 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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I've long wanted a Bertone GT Junior/GTV, and have now got the green light from SWMBO to buy one - savings are not making any money, and here in the eurozone they're positively dangerous!

I've found a nice-looking example (going to see it this week), but I've suddenly had the offer of a 155 Q4 via a friend, which has thrown a spanner in the works.

I already have a small collection of summer-only cars (Alfa Spider, Sunbeam Alpine and Mini Cooper) and what I really need is a 4 seater which can be used year-round. The Q4 seems to fit this profile much better - being more modern - plus it should be a hoot to drive - 190 bhp, four-wheel drive - a Q car in every sense of the word. It does however lack the sense of occasion you get with a classic - the interior is an acre of plastic.

Does anyone on here run a GT Junior/GTV in the winter?

RicksAlfas

14,257 posts

265 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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No.
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waynedear

2,351 posts

188 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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I would not fall into the trap of thinking the 155 will be reliable....have a look on www.alfa155.org

JimmyJam

2,420 posts

240 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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I have run my GTJ as a daily for a few weeks at a time over the winter when my others are off the road. It's quite capable on a day to day basis but I'm not sure it could take it long term and I think the novelty would wear off. If you've got deep pockets and are dedicated to the cause of driving a 40 year old car every day then do it, otherwise I'd buy it and just use as a normal 2nd classic.
I did have an S4 Spider which was great as a daily for 3 years but that's much more modern of course.

sunbeam alpine

Original Poster:

7,212 posts

209 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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JimmyJam said:
I have run my GTJ as a daily for a few weeks at a time over the winter when my others are off the road. It's quite capable on a day to day basis but I'm not sure it could take it long term and I think the novelty would wear off. If you've got deep pockets and are dedicated to the cause of driving a 40 year old car every day then do it, otherwise I'd buy it and just use as a normal 2nd classic.
I did have an S4 Spider which was great as a daily for 3 years but that's much more modern of course.
Sorry - I maybe wasn't clear in my first post - it won't be used daily, but as a 2nd/3rd/4th classic.

I really want the GTJ, the only thing that's stopping me is that I already have 3 cars which only come out when the sun shines. I want a weekend toy that I can use in the winter too. It will be garaged.

Waynedear - I used to have a Q4 (had it for 4 years and totalled it in France when I fell asleep at the wheel on the motorway). It never once let me down. In fact I've had an Alfa in one or other form since 1989, and have only had 1 breakdown. (I know I'm going to regret typing that next time I go out smile )

JimmyJam

2,420 posts

240 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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Do it then, can't see any reason not to! The heating is excellent and theres lots of RWD fun to be had in the wet

RicksAlfas

14,257 posts

265 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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sunbeam alpine said:
I really want the GTJ, the only thing that's stopping me is that I already have 3 cars which only come out when the sun shines. I want a weekend toy that I can use in the winter too. It will be garaged.
Ah. In that case I think you would be OK. Performance, brakes and gears (all 5 speed) are no problem everyday. What would drive me to distraction is the poor demisting/ventilation. The later the model you get, the better the ventilation, so a 2000 might be the one to look for. You can get aftermarket heated front screens (and rear screens presumably). 20 cans of Dynax and some mudflaps and away you go. You could even look for one with fibreglass body panels!

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

264 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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sunbeam alpine said:
Waynedear - I used to have a Q4 (had it for 4 years and totalled it in France when I fell asleep at the wheel on the motorway).
Was that the one that came up for sale again a few months ago?

sunbeam alpine

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7,212 posts

209 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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Evoluzione said:
sunbeam alpine said:
Waynedear - I used to have a Q4 (had it for 4 years and totalled it in France when I fell asleep at the wheel on the motorway).
Was that the one that came up for sale again a few months ago?
No. I know the guy who bought the wreck (and believe me it was a wreck). He's still got it.

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

264 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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sunbeam alpine said:
No. I know the guy who bought the wreck (and believe me it was a wreck). He's still got it.
Ah I see, K779 DTF was the one I was thinking of, apparently crashed on the way to Spa and ended up in a ditch written off, but not whilst the driver was asleep (just researched it again) - the old 'diesel on the bend' reason this time.
When it came up for sale recently the vendor forgot to mention any of this!

I wonder what the guy you know is ever going to do with it, a shame when they sit around doing nothing for so long.

Buy an integrale btw. biggrin

robsa

2,439 posts

205 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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Get the Junior! Mad not to!

vpr

3,892 posts

259 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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Just bought a GT-J and can't believe what a truly decent car it is especially when you compare it to the RS Escorts of their day but then I guess they were double dear?

RicksAlfas

14,257 posts

265 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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vpr said:
Just bought a GT-J and can't believe what a truly decent car it is especially when you compare it to the RS Escorts of their day but then I guess they were double dear?
Yes dear. At least double. biggrin

arguti

1,836 posts

207 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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Great cars, for me the main practical issues would be the non-existent demisting, noise (no carpets or sound deadening in mine) over a long distance....great visibility and generates lots of smiles.

Need to have one, end of

sunbeam alpine

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7,212 posts

209 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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Bought the Q4 - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Still negotiating on the GTJ - I'm going to buy both. smile