Is the pneumatic tyre days numbered?
Is the pneumatic tyre days numbered?
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McWigglebum4th

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32,414 posts

235 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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With the current trend of tiny profile tyres, huge alloys, hugely stiff sidewalls, tyre pressure monitoring, lack of spare tyres.

Do you think the days of the humble pneumatic tyre are numbered?

ging84

9,548 posts

177 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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i hope so
then people can stop pissing their pants arguing over runflat tyres

smartphone hater

4,300 posts

174 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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I've never seen the point in the stupidly wide & low profile tyres & alloys on everyday vehicles these days. Yesterday I bought four steels so I can change mine from 215/45/17 to 195/65/15. I'm simply fed up with the 215s, also they're like sitting on a skateboard going through a quarry.

jet_noise

6,104 posts

213 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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Dear sh,

smartphone hater said:
I've never seen the point in the stupidly wide & low profile tyres & alloys on everyday vehicles these days. Yesterday I bought four steels so I can change mine from 215/45/17 to 195/65/15. I'm simply fed up with the 215s, also they're like sitting on a skateboard going through a quarry.
Good similie smile

However one has to ask how often you do drive through a quarry?
It's all about the style/ride/handling compromise. For some people unless females need a sports bra to nip to Tesco it isn't hard enough.
Others, myself included, prefer something smoother - I have changed springs (on my Monaro) to something more stock but kept stiffer shocks and poly bushes.

There's a lot the designer can do isn't there to mitigate against the low-profile shakes?

Having said that IIRC there was some futuristic car on these very pages with very tall, narrow wheels and very high profile tyres. The contact patch stays the same (as a low profile tyre) as the rolling radius is higher,

regards,
Jet

jon-

16,534 posts

247 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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No.

What would you replace them with?

Tweels are the closest we've come to designing a good replacement, but there were some serious NVH issues with them.

Air, however old fashioned, has some wonderful properties.

McWigglebum4th

Original Poster:

32,414 posts

235 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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jon- said:
No.

What would you replace them with?

Tweels are the closest we've come to designing a good replacement, but there were some serious NVH issues with them.

Air, however old fashioned, has some wonderful properties.
The same thing we replace most things with

And overly complicated expensive solution that performs worse then the orginal in all areas but it costs 4 times the amount. but it does have a nice shiny button

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

296 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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jon- said:
No.

What would you replace them with?

Tweels are the closest we've come to designing a good replacement, but there were some serious NVH issues with them.

Air, however old fashioned, has some wonderful properties.
Exactly.

There is no need to reinvent the wheeltyre.

fartIN'ajar

35 posts

165 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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I think the date is numbered, rather than the days, to let you know the age of the tyres.

AdeTuono

7,626 posts

258 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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smartphone hater said:
I've never seen the point in the stupidly wide & low profile tyres & alloys on everyday vehicles these days. Yesterday I bought four steels so I can change mine from 215/45/17 to 195/65/15. I'm simply fed up with the 215s, also they're like sitting on a skateboard going through a quarry.
215 is hardly wide though. I had a 200 section on my last bike.

HustleRussell

26,691 posts

191 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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Pneumatic tyre is here to stay for the foreseeable future.

ging84

9,548 posts

177 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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hopefully one day they will be replaced by nanobots
they'd be able to actively mould themselves perfectly to the road, alter between different grip and comfort profiles at the touch of a button, something the size of a bike tyre would give more grip than a current formula 1 tyre, and could last for years.
I'm sure 60 years ago no one would believe that by now we would have all have TVs that were made with 4 million transistors or LEDs in a grid to control individual pixels

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

296 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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ging84 said:
hopefully one day they will be replaced by nanobots
they'd be able to actively mould themselves perfectly to the road, alter between different grip and comfort profiles at the touch of a button, something the size of a bike tyre would give more grip than a current formula 1 tyre, and could last for years.
I'm sure 60 years ago no one would believe that by now we would have all have TVs that were made with 4 million transistors or LEDs in a grid to control individual pixels
I'm pretty sure that 60 years ago tyres were rubber and filled with air, and water was wiped off windscreens with little mechanical arms.

60 years ago they thought we'd all be using hover cars by now.

Predicting the future is quite tricky. Plus I'll be dead in 60 years so it doesn't matter.

ging84

9,548 posts

177 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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Captain Muppet said:
I'm pretty sure that 60 years ago tyres were rubber and filled with air, and water was wiped off windscreens with little mechanical arms.

60 years ago they thought we'd all be using hover cars by now.

Predicting the future is quite tricky. Plus I'll be dead in 60 years so it doesn't matter.
time for a shake up if you ask me
sonic windscreens and nanobot tyres
you are right about predicting the future though, in 60 years time personal transport may have all but ceased to exist

RobM77

35,349 posts

265 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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Hopefully not, no, provided there are proper car companies out there who understand the inclusion of the tyre and its sidewall in designing and developing the whole suspension system.