Nearing end of 2 year warranty - 997.1S
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Thoughts appreciated with reasons please :-).
My 2005 C2S is due a service and warranty renewal soon.
I can put another 2 years on if booked in before 7th May otherwise the existing warranty expires in Sept and I can only add an additional year.
So
1) book in service and 1 year warranty in Sept (when due)
2) book in service and 2 year warranty earlier in May
3) trade in/sell privately for 997.2S and no need to worry about warranties as apparently they don't break? Interesting that my warranty has covered a new gear box and front suspension so far at over £10k with parts and labour. Nothing engine related.
4) keep a contingency fund for a Hartech rebuild and get the car serviced at an Independant. I really like my 911!
5) something else?
Thanks!
My 2005 C2S is due a service and warranty renewal soon.
I can put another 2 years on if booked in before 7th May otherwise the existing warranty expires in Sept and I can only add an additional year.
So
1) book in service and 1 year warranty in Sept (when due)
2) book in service and 2 year warranty earlier in May
3) trade in/sell privately for 997.2S and no need to worry about warranties as apparently they don't break? Interesting that my warranty has covered a new gear box and front suspension so far at over £10k with parts and labour. Nothing engine related.
4) keep a contingency fund for a Hartech rebuild and get the car serviced at an Independant. I really like my 911!
5) something else?
Thanks!
Hi everyone, this topic gives me the opportunity to make my first post having been an avid reader of the Porsche forum on PistonHeads for several months.
I have an early 2005 997 2S which doesn't have a Porsche warranty, I've owned the car for a few months and it has 46000 miles on the clock.
The car is in A1 condition and has been serviced at an OPC with the exception of the last major one which was done at a respected Independent.
The car, as you would expect is very solid and runs like a dream.
As the car is coming up to it's eighth birthday I am considering a Porsche extended warranty, however at a cost of nearly £2300 including the 111 point check but excluding Porsche Assistance I am not sure what to do. I have never bought an extended warranty on anything and wouldn't consider an Insurance backed product from the likes of Warranty Direct , if I get one it will be the official Porsche one.
When I bought the car I had a budget that included the car itself and a slush fund should anything unexpected happen, the fund is £7000.
If I bought the warranty the cost would come out of the £7000 fund.
On the basis that the car has got to 46000 without incident and from what I can glean 95% of 996/early 997 don't suffer from IMS/Bore scoring issues I'm inclined to keep hold of the £2300 and rely on my fund if anything goes wrong.
Hope I'm not hi Jacking the OPs thread but his point about what the Porsche warranty had already paid out got me thinking.
What's the consensus Porsche warranty or self insure?
Thanks
I have an early 2005 997 2S which doesn't have a Porsche warranty, I've owned the car for a few months and it has 46000 miles on the clock.
The car is in A1 condition and has been serviced at an OPC with the exception of the last major one which was done at a respected Independent.
The car, as you would expect is very solid and runs like a dream.
As the car is coming up to it's eighth birthday I am considering a Porsche extended warranty, however at a cost of nearly £2300 including the 111 point check but excluding Porsche Assistance I am not sure what to do. I have never bought an extended warranty on anything and wouldn't consider an Insurance backed product from the likes of Warranty Direct , if I get one it will be the official Porsche one.
When I bought the car I had a budget that included the car itself and a slush fund should anything unexpected happen, the fund is £7000.
If I bought the warranty the cost would come out of the £7000 fund.
On the basis that the car has got to 46000 without incident and from what I can glean 95% of 996/early 997 don't suffer from IMS/Bore scoring issues I'm inclined to keep hold of the £2300 and rely on my fund if anything goes wrong.
Hope I'm not hi Jacking the OPs thread but his point about what the Porsche warranty had already paid out got me thinking.
What's the consensus Porsche warranty or self insure?
Thanks
The above is my general thought also.
I think I'll go for the 2 year warranty and sell with 6 months remaining.
The aim would be to get into 991 C2S at 45-50k sterlings. Don't see much point in moving to a 997.2 other than having a car in warranty.
When I've had BMW's, VW's etc I've never had a warranty but then prices when things go wrong aren't that scary and there are so many specialists close to Guildford with a good reputation. Not so much with Porsche.
I think I'll go for the 2 year warranty and sell with 6 months remaining.
The aim would be to get into 991 C2S at 45-50k sterlings. Don't see much point in moving to a 997.2 other than having a car in warranty.
When I've had BMW's, VW's etc I've never had a warranty but then prices when things go wrong aren't that scary and there are so many specialists close to Guildford with a good reputation. Not so much with Porsche.
Yes, get the Porsche warranty. My 1st Boxster (2004 Tip) needed a new gearbox at it's 1st service after 2 years and fortunately I'd bought the warranty. I hate to think what a new gearbox would have cost without. Plus the recovery aspect gives me peace of mind. Mind you, it depends on how lucky you feel as it's only like any insurance.
I am currently going for option 4.
I have a late 06 C4S with 53k miles on it (bought with 47k approx). I have enough saved for an engine rebuild. Clearly spending that would hack me off, but I reckon most 911s need engine rebuilds one stage or another (previously had a 964 and back then - 10 yrs ago - many seemed to be getting rebuilt).
I've spent <£300 in unexpected repairs over one year (amplifier, exhaust clamp and bulb), no doubt it will be worse this year!
Personally, I think that you can run a 997 outside the OPC network for considerably less, the warranty is more for those who wish to stay within the OPC network.
colnagoglyn said:
Hi everyone, this topic gives me the opportunity to make my first post having been an avid reader of the Porsche forum on PistonHeads for several months.
I have an early 2005 997 2S which doesn't have a Porsche warranty, I've owned the car for a few months and it has 46000 miles on the clock.
...
What's the consensus Porsche warranty or self insure?
Thanks
I also have a 2005 C2S, also with 46k on the clock. I have also considered the Porsche Warranty option but took the decision that I only do 3-4k miles a year, the car feels good in every way and should anything do go wrong, I have a back fund in case of the worst case scenario. I have an early 2005 997 2S which doesn't have a Porsche warranty, I've owned the car for a few months and it has 46000 miles on the clock.
...
What's the consensus Porsche warranty or self insure?
Thanks
So far, I am £2.3k up!
OP, I would go for option 4 but if you really think you will be worried about the car all the time, then go for option 2 for complete peace of mind!
£2300 with a fewer than 5% chance cover will be needed for a job you could have done elsewhere for £7,000 or less. If you could never even conceive of being able to find £7000 if the worst were to happen then you don't have much choice, but otherwise I think the odds are very good indeed that you'll be much better off keeping your money in your pocket.
>95% chance of keeping £2300 compared to <5% chance of costing an additional £4700.
Even a gearbox rebuild at Hartech or Sports & Classic would just about be covered by the warranty premium (besides the engine there's probably not any claimable jobs would exceed it actually). You could of course opt for either of their maintenance schemes which work out at a few hundred pounds a year (compared to their service costs) for full labour cover (even on routine maintenance).
Assistance cover from the AA or RAC (who Porsche contract their cover out to) you can buy separately of course.
>95% chance of keeping £2300 compared to <5% chance of costing an additional £4700.
Even a gearbox rebuild at Hartech or Sports & Classic would just about be covered by the warranty premium (besides the engine there's probably not any claimable jobs would exceed it actually). You could of course opt for either of their maintenance schemes which work out at a few hundred pounds a year (compared to their service costs) for full labour cover (even on routine maintenance).
Assistance cover from the AA or RAC (who Porsche contract their cover out to) you can buy separately of course.
thegoose said:
£2300 with a fewer than 5% chance cover will be needed for a job you could have done elsewhere for £7,000 or less. If you could never even conceive of being able to find £7000 if the worst were to happen then you don't have much choice, but otherwise I think the odds are very good indeed that you'll be much better off keeping your money in your pocket.
>95% chance of keeping £2300 compared to <5% chance of costing an additional £4700.
Even a gearbox rebuild at Hartech or Sports & Classic would just about be covered by the warranty premium (besides the engine there's probably not any claimable jobs would exceed it actually). You could of course opt for either of their maintenance schemes which work out at a few hundred pounds a year (compared to their service costs) for full labour cover (even on routine maintenance).
Assistance cover from the AA or RAC (who Porsche contract their cover out to) you can buy separately of course.
+1>95% chance of keeping £2300 compared to <5% chance of costing an additional £4700.
Even a gearbox rebuild at Hartech or Sports & Classic would just about be covered by the warranty premium (besides the engine there's probably not any claimable jobs would exceed it actually). You could of course opt for either of their maintenance schemes which work out at a few hundred pounds a year (compared to their service costs) for full labour cover (even on routine maintenance).
Assistance cover from the AA or RAC (who Porsche contract their cover out to) you can buy separately of course.
thegoose said:
£2300 with a fewer than 5% chance cover will be needed for a job you could have done elsewhere for £7,000 or less. If you could never even conceive of being able to find £7000 if the worst were to happen then you don't have much choice, but otherwise I think the odds are very good indeed that you'll be much better off keeping your money in your pocket.
>95% chance of keeping £2300 compared to <5% chance of costing an additional £4700.
Even a gearbox rebuild at Hartech or Sports & Classic would just about be covered by the warranty premium (besides the engine there's probably not any claimable jobs would exceed it actually). You could of course opt for either of their maintenance schemes which work out at a few hundred pounds a year (compared to their service costs) for full labour cover (even on routine maintenance).
Assistance cover from the AA or RAC (who Porsche contract their cover out to) you can buy separately of course.
+1>95% chance of keeping £2300 compared to <5% chance of costing an additional £4700.
Even a gearbox rebuild at Hartech or Sports & Classic would just about be covered by the warranty premium (besides the engine there's probably not any claimable jobs would exceed it actually). You could of course opt for either of their maintenance schemes which work out at a few hundred pounds a year (compared to their service costs) for full labour cover (even on routine maintenance).
Assistance cover from the AA or RAC (who Porsche contract their cover out to) you can buy separately of course.
OPC's will spend money like water, when an Indy will repair the issue.All main dealers are like this, replace complete units,they are incapable of fixing stuff,regardless of the franchise.They are so heavily targeted for parts sales and sold workshop hours, they'll find stuff to do that doesn't really need doing.Franchise standards don#t allow them to fix stuff.Your OPC warranty just allows them to spend yours and Porsche's cash with abandon.My recently purchased C4S will be going the Hartech maintenance plan route,far more cost effective.
Decision is made, I will self insure against any potential issues and use an Independent dealer for servicing and repairs.
My car is eight years old and I intend to keep it for several years so the Indy way seems to be the most appropriate from a cost perspective over the longer term.
My car is eight years old and I intend to keep it for several years so the Indy way seems to be the most appropriate from a cost perspective over the longer term.
colnagoglyn said:
Decision is made, I will self insure against any potential issues and use an Independent dealer for servicing and repairs.
My car is eight years old and I intend to keep it for several years so the Indy way seems to be the most appropriate from a cost perspective over the longer term.
I've used Indy for servicing, but OPC for most repairs. A 2 year warranty on repairs isn't to be sniffed at, and nice new courtesy car makes the whole deal rather sweet. I've found it very cost effective and they're rather competitive on repair work. Depending on the model, servicing is 6 and half a dozen too. My car is eight years old and I intend to keep it for several years so the Indy way seems to be the most appropriate from a cost perspective over the longer term.
So, I am booked into OPC Guildford for the beginning of July.
I am on 40k miles so it needs a major service and I've asked for an additional 1 year warranty.
There is no charge for the check due to the service being carried out at the same time, however I can only extend for 1 year due to the car being an 05/2005 build - I purchased the car in Sept 2011 and they will extend the warranty until Sept 2014.
So my thoughts for next year are ask GT One to carry out a borescope before the warranty expires and if any issues ask Porsche to repair. Then maybe sell with at least 3 months warranty remaining with a clean bill of health on the engine. What do you think the likelihood of Porsche fixing an engine based on borescope results from a third party are?
Kiddies on the cards for next year so Panamera vs C63 vs M6 vs 997.2/991 Coupe (I Hope!) is my current list :-)
I am on 40k miles so it needs a major service and I've asked for an additional 1 year warranty.
There is no charge for the check due to the service being carried out at the same time, however I can only extend for 1 year due to the car being an 05/2005 build - I purchased the car in Sept 2011 and they will extend the warranty until Sept 2014.
So my thoughts for next year are ask GT One to carry out a borescope before the warranty expires and if any issues ask Porsche to repair. Then maybe sell with at least 3 months warranty remaining with a clean bill of health on the engine. What do you think the likelihood of Porsche fixing an engine based on borescope results from a third party are?
Kiddies on the cards for next year so Panamera vs C63 vs M6 vs 997.2/991 Coupe (I Hope!) is my current list :-)
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