Young Driver Curfew
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Josh147

Original Poster:

189 posts

209 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21937188

I've been driving since I was 18, I'm now 23.
I've never been in an accident that was my fault which my no claims reflects & I've never had any points on my licence.

The reason this concerns me is because I volunteer at a youth club on a Friday night which means I never get home 'till midnight, I assume the curfew would kick in before midnight (if it doesn't, is there any point?).

I know details on this proposal are vague but I'd be interested to hear if anyone has an inside scoop on more detail i.e. exceptions for a clean driving history, etc.

Thanks

Streps

2,457 posts

197 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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Ridiculous and insulting to assume all decent young drivers are tucked up in bed by 9,and only the naughty ones are out crashing about after that.

It would be another punch in the face for people trying to get jobs.
You can work at night you know! Do these muppets realise this.

How about the insurance companies stop bowing under stupid claims.
And target uninsured drivers with more force.

Curfews are unworkable.I'm not even going to get started on bloody tracking boxes!


Edited by Streps on Tuesday 26th March 19:24

Negative Creep

26,140 posts

258 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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Get married, rent or buy a house, serve in the armed forces, start a business, take out a credit card, purchase or star in pornographic films - we'll trust you with that.

Drive after it gets dark - no way could you handle that responsibility

Jasandjules

72,681 posts

260 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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Negative Creep said:
Get married, rent or buy a house, serve in the armed forces, start a business, take out a credit card, purchase or star in pornographic films - we'll trust you with that.

Drive after it gets dark - no way could you handle that responsibility
It's pathetic isn't it?!?!

Just a knee jerk reaction as usual by a Govt with no idea what to do.

Josh147

Original Poster:

189 posts

209 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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Agree on the whole black box scam. That's just a money making initiative.

To be honest, I think the curfew proposal isn't a bad idea, provided that exceptions can be made for young drivers working night shifts & clean driving histories.

Driving around on a Friday night, or any night for that matter, you see plenty of young drivers who think they're the next Vettle (I picked him given his recent episode where he ignored his team's orders, thinking he knew best).

Of course the other option is to get more coppers on the streets & reduce the ridiculous amount of red tape they have to endure so that they can actually keep an eye out for these twonks.

wolves_wanderer

12,959 posts

268 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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Compulsory motorway learning? That'll be a long lesson if you're in a rural area, you know, the kind of place where you actually need a car rolleyes

Gooly

977 posts

179 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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So if this came in would it apply to everyone in that age group immediatly, or would those who have already passed get "grandfather rights" as such and be out of the loop? Would be even more ridiculous to suddenly curb the freedoms of plenty of succesful young drivers... I got my first car at 17, I did 20k in my first year and also worked at a job where I had to drive uptil 11PM, earnt my years no-claims... so for the government to then say I am no longer responsible enough to drive at night or with passengers is simply ridiculous. I'd say 80-90% of my driving is under the prohibited criteria of this proposal.

Maybe I should just join the army, or raise a child, I'm allowed to do that at this age so it must be safer/easier.

maxdb

1,547 posts

188 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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It will never happen as it is a breach of human rights.

digger the goat

2,868 posts

176 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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And in the same breath they are proposing a drop in the legal driving age to 16 1/2 !!

civicduty

1,857 posts

234 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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wolves_wanderer said:
Compulsory motorway learning? That'll be a long lesson if you're in a rural area, you know, the kind of place where you actually need a car rolleyes
I feel really sorry for people who live near Lands End, as it would be about a two hour drive just to get to the M5, though perhaps this is the governments sneaky way of stopping those from the Deep South getting a driving licence.

Josh147

Original Poster:

189 posts

209 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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Obviously it's all talk at the moment.
I doubt it'll even get to the point of discussion with politicians.

In fact I'm confident it won't because young adults are playing a key role in elections; the last thing politicians want to do is ps off the very people they want to have vote for them. Plus there's too many variables that they'd have to cater for, it's too much of a faff!

Jasandjules

72,681 posts

260 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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Other countries with higher driving standards don't have curfews like this do they? They may well have significantly more training required such as motorway and night driving....

mike9009

11,014 posts

274 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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maxdb said:
It will never happen as it is a breach of human rights.
Is it a human right to be able to drive? They are not stopping youngsters going out at night......

I think if there is such a risk, then the insurance companies can levy this - ie by offering cheaper insurance to young 'uns who won't drive after 9PM for example. That way all other risks can be factored in....

A blanket ban, simply cannot work for the reasons mentioned above....

civicduty

1,857 posts

234 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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maxdb said:
It will never happen as it is a breach of human rights.
Is it though, a curfew for young people was successfully implemented in Redruth in Cornwall, not for drivers admittedly but it certainly curtailed the movements of people within a defined age bracket.

-Z-

8,413 posts

237 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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So you could be a fully qualified doctor but not able to drive to the hospital? That's been thought out well!

mat777

10,714 posts

191 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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Its utterly fking absurd. They had better not apply this retrospectively or I will hit the roof. I spend most of my time with my friends in the car driving to each others houses, often at night after a day out, and so far in 4 years driving have managed to avoid stacking either of the powerful vehicles I am insured to use.
They need to stop assuming all young drivers are brainless barryboy mongs razzing corsas round council estates

madbadger

11,754 posts

275 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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-Z- said:
So you could be a fully qualified doctor but not able to drive to the hospital? That's been thought out well!
My cousin at 24 was a fully qualified doctor and was not allowed to buy a pair of scissors with ladybirds on them.

Wild Swordfish

1,538 posts

170 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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Being a 19 year old, reading this this enrages me.

Yes, statistically that is the case, but to penalise everyone is absurd.

I have already clocked up over 50,000 miles in my 2 years of driving. The closest thing I have to come to an accident is almost rear ending a police car which pulled a car over on a dual carriage and had them stop in the slow lane.

maxdb

1,547 posts

188 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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civicduty said:
Is it though, a curfew for young people was successfully implemented in Redruth in Cornwall, not for drivers admittedly but it certainly curtailed the movements of people within a defined age bracket.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4699095.stm

That's one reason why I think it will never happen. What will happen to all the night workers? Why should the majority get penalised due to careless actions caused by a minority?

43034

2,971 posts

199 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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There's already a thread on driving test overhaul on here, but on the curfew specifically, this is down right a piss take!

As I said on the other thread, i've 18, soon to be in my second year of driving with no accident/scrape (fault or not) and gladly passed my test in with 1 minor. I don't drive like Senna, drive to the conditions and don't try to prove something with mates in the car.

I work til midnight 3 times a week and until 1am once a week.

If however, it's for first time drivers, then i'm all for it wink