A utilitarian, "hygieno-moralistic" new order
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The French, bemoaning the intrusion of the modern world's health obsession;
article said:
But Saverot has another target in his sights.
"It is our bourgeois, technocratic elite with their campaigns against drink-driving and alcoholism, lumping wine in with every other type of alcohol, even though it should be regarded as totally different," he says.
"Recently I heard one senior health official saying that wine causes cancer 'from the very first glass'. That coming from a Frenchman. I was flabbergasted. In hock with the health lobby and the politically correct, our elites prefer to keep the country on chemical anti-depressants and wean us off wine.
"Just look at the figures. In the 1960s, we were drinking 160 litres each a year and weren't taking any pills. Today we consume 80 million packets of anti-depressants, and wine sales are collapsing. Wine is the subtlest, most civilised, most noble of anti-depressants. But look at our villages. The village bar has gone, replaced by a pharmacy."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21929287"It is our bourgeois, technocratic elite with their campaigns against drink-driving and alcoholism, lumping wine in with every other type of alcohol, even though it should be regarded as totally different," he says.
"Recently I heard one senior health official saying that wine causes cancer 'from the very first glass'. That coming from a Frenchman. I was flabbergasted. In hock with the health lobby and the politically correct, our elites prefer to keep the country on chemical anti-depressants and wean us off wine.
"Just look at the figures. In the 1960s, we were drinking 160 litres each a year and weren't taking any pills. Today we consume 80 million packets of anti-depressants, and wine sales are collapsing. Wine is the subtlest, most civilised, most noble of anti-depressants. But look at our villages. The village bar has gone, replaced by a pharmacy."
It would be interesting to compare it with UK figures, I know more people are on anti-depressants now than ever before and I *think* we are drinking more wine than ever too....
So what is he suggesting? That we drop D&D laws, I get up on a morning, drink half a bottle of wine and drive to work?
So what is he suggesting? That we drop D&D laws, I get up on a morning, drink half a bottle of wine and drive to work?
Evoluzione said:
So what is he suggesting? That we drop D&D laws, I get up on a morning, drink half a bottle of wine and drive to work?
It used to be that French truckers wouldn't consider it lunch without a carafe of wine, even McDoCrap had to offer it. I doubt that is allowed any more.Misery loves company.
While I'm not sure the link between anti depressants and wine is quite so direct, I generally agree with the sentiment about more efficient clincial lives being less satisfying overall. Antidepressants are often used as a medical answer to a social problem simply because its the easier than dealing with the underlying problem.
A glass of wine at the end of the day is a great relief though
A glass of wine at the end of the day is a great relief though
rpguk said:
While I'm not sure the link between anti depressants and wine is quite so direct, I generally agree with the sentiment about more efficient clincial lives being less satisfying overall. Antidepressants are often used as a medical answer to a social problem simply because its the easier than dealing with the underlying problem.
A glass of wine at the end of the day is a great relief though
The problem is that we in the UK scuttle home from the office - often alone - and drink to relieve stress, rather than wine and conviviality being part of the working day.A glass of wine at the end of the day is a great relief though
A few years ago, friends bought a house in Burgundy. The first time I went out there I was amazed to see vineyard workers stopping on the hour, every hour throughout the day, for a glass of wine. (Never mind what they quaffed over a leisurely two-hour lunch break.)
The UK has much to learn from this I'm sure.
grumbledoak said:
It used to be that French truckers wouldn't consider it lunch without a carafe of wine, even McDoCrap had to offer it. I doubt that is allowed any more.
Misery loves company.
On one of those Traffic cop programs last week they pulled some Eastern European van driver off the motorway at night, he had two empty bottles of wine beside him and was so pissed he'd wet himself.Misery loves company.
Mobile Chicane said:
The problem is that we in the UK scuttle home from the office - often alone - and drink to relieve stress, rather than wine and conviviality being part of the working day.
A few years ago, friends bought a house in Burgundy. The first time I went out there I was amazed to see vineyard workers stopping on the hour, every hour throughout the day, for a glass of wine. (Never mind what they quaffed over a leisurely two-hour lunch break.)
The UK has much to learn from this I'm sure.
I agree with what you are saying, but why aren't people going to the local pub and socialising anymore? Probably a variety of reasons; Increased internet socialising, smoking ban, drink driving laws, lack of money being my top four, but I think there is more to it.A few years ago, friends bought a house in Burgundy. The first time I went out there I was amazed to see vineyard workers stopping on the hour, every hour throughout the day, for a glass of wine. (Never mind what they quaffed over a leisurely two-hour lunch break.)
The UK has much to learn from this I'm sure.
On Jeremy Vines R2 program a few weeks back they were talking about the isolation, depression, even suicide brought on by the D&D laws in Ireland. They were saying it was caused by people in isolated areas not being able to go the the pubs any more, again, I feel there is a bit more to it. If you live in the countryside it's not a problem to go to the pub for a few and drive home because there aren't any Police out there anyhow...
Art0ir said:
Careful, a thread about the West of Ireland situation was not received well!
On here? Please point me in the direction if you can find it! The search engine on here is s hite atm I know.Personally I think driving on a long journey and/or on busy roads after having any drink is a lot different to getting yourself home from the pub in the middle of no-where...
Evoluzione said:
On one of those Traffic cop programs last week they pulled some Eastern European van driver off the motorway at night, he had two empty bottles of wine beside him and was so pissed he'd wet himself.
Not sure what your point is. It's pretty clearly not the same thing. Or does that distinction only apply to the Oirish somehow?Gassing Station | Food, Drink & Restaurants | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff