Bus collision statistics.
Bus collision statistics.
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FiF

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49,000 posts

282 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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Report out on collision statistics for Sheffield.

Buses make up 3% of traffic miles but are involved in 12% of collisions.

Will provide link later but search for Road Safety Observatory.

talksthetalk

10,821 posts

166 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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But they are four times the size of a car, so it averages out correctly.

premio

1,020 posts

195 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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And also carry probably 20 times the passengers, so more calculator moments needed.

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

264 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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premio said:
And also carry probably 20 times the passengers, so more calculator moments needed.
Average bus occupancy 20? Dream on.

S0 What

3,358 posts

203 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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premio said:
And also carry probably 20 times the passengers, so more calculator moments needed.
not if they are empty ?
I've been hit by 2 busses in the last 3 years, one had 1 driver and 1 passenger where as my vehical had 4 people in it, and the 2nd had no one in it at all and my vehical had 6.

premio

1,020 posts

195 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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S0 What said:
not if they are empty ?
I've been hit by 2 busses in the last 3 years, one had 1 driver and 1 passenger where as my vehical had 4 people in it, and the 2nd had no one in it at all and my vehical had 6.
Ok well sadly I haven't been able to conduct a survey on all bus passengers in the uk, but given that single decker are 52 seaters, and double deckers are 80, and the majority of double deckers are in London, which is the city with the highest bus use, if you did want to take an average, they would probably average out at more than zero passengers per bus. I have no proof of this by the way, it's just a hunch.

trashbat

6,317 posts

184 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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S0 What said:
one had 1 driver and 1 passenger ... and the 2nd had no one in it at all and my vehical had 6.
So you were hit by an empty ghost bus? Was it moving, or did it jump out at you really fast whilst it was stopped?

andy-xr

13,204 posts

235 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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Sheffield does quite well for quantity of buses, they're regular and for the most part, on time. Because there's so many of them, especially around the town centre and uni housing areas, people get pissed off with them and try and get past asap. Though I cant explain why one ran into a tram confused

st4

1,359 posts

164 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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talksthetalk said:
But they are four times the size of a car, so it averages out correctly.
Does that mean its ok if I drive a range rover and hit a few people, its 3x more acceptable than if I do it on a smart car as the rangie is 3x the lenght and mass?

Buses are a menance and its time they were banned from city centres for the congestion they cause and the wanton disregard their drivers show other car drivers.

Plus the mass of the things seems to cause massive road damage. I find it no small co-incidence that the most rutted and damaged routes in Glasgow are bus routes.

Bus companies should be billed for the damage their vehicles to the road, the environment, and the cost passed on to the passangers who use them.

0a

24,160 posts

225 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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I suspect most collisions occur during rush hour in towns and cities - when and where buses operate.

Krikkit

27,941 posts

212 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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st4 said:
Buses are a menance and its time they were banned from city centres for the congestion they cause and the wanton disregard their drivers show other car drivers.
hehe

trashbat

6,317 posts

184 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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bUSES. bAD.

hairykrishna

14,539 posts

234 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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Immediately made me think of the crazy russian bus driver...

http://hypervocal.com/vids/2013/the-punisher-russi...

Tunku

7,703 posts

259 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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Buses, horrible things.
Mrs Tunku had to get a bus to and from work with a new job. She has no car. I worked out she would actually be better off financially driving my Volvo.

The Vambo

7,797 posts

172 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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Some of those accidents will be ones that the bus could physically stop for but didn't due to injuries it would inflict on the passengers, especially those standing.

FiF

Original Poster:

49,000 posts

282 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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Well certainly 40% of the collisions which were classed as KSI to a bus passenger involved heavy braking, and whilst the buses only account for 3% of traffic, passengers accounted for 24% of injuries.

Personally, I find it disturbing that these drivers, who are supposed to be trained to higher standards, and have a financial incentive to remain collision free have so many collisions.

Ray Luxury-Yacht

8,918 posts

247 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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I was in a 2-lane road at a set of traffic lights recently, driving a hire van. The left lane contained a bus, next to me, to go straight on, and my right-hand lane was to turn right.

When the lights changed, bus man and I started driving forwards at about the same pace, except bus man started moving over towards me, to the point that his bus entered a bit of my lane, and the wing-mirror of my hire van went straight through and smashed the emergency exit window of the bus (which is toughened glass, and designed to be easily broken as an egress point and hence not that strong).

We all pulled over, and I was perfectly calm but bus man (who was also clearly foreign) jumped out, came to my window, and had a proper rant at me telling me I drove into him, accompanied with the usual kind of mediterrainian shouting, leaping around and wildly gesticulating... anyway once he'd calmed down, I informed him that the blame lay at his door.

He ranted at me 'no, no - is you fault, is you fault...the cameras on the bus will show theese, you see? You see?' Etc.

Fortunately for me, there were indeed external CCTV cameras on the bus - which saw the bus company pay out for a new mirror on the hire van, and go very quiet after that biggrin


talksthetalk

10,821 posts

166 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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Think of all the types of people you see in a bus.
Now, put them in ones and twos into fogged up clapped out old stboxes which are all on the road between you and where you want to go. Say 12 cars per bus.
Because that is the alternative.
I have used a bus probably twice in the last 15 years, and also National Express twice in the same amount of time.
I can see why bus drivers want to get their "customers" off the bus and get back home quickly.

talksthetalk

10,821 posts

166 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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Sheffield is Busville. And most in Sheff are underused, apart from maybe the number 60 which always seem jam packed despite the fact there seems to be 1 every two minutes.

Meths

2,109 posts

167 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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Spending summer resiting a fking exam because some dipst bus driver writes of two of my fking cars and then gives me fk all for them.


Was supposed to be going on a placement in germany. The good news is i'm making them pay for it hehe

Edited by Meths on Wednesday 27th March 23:36