Looking at RR's - c. 2004 / 100k+ miles / £8k - info
Discussion
As above. Need a diesel as cover about 15k year. Towing horses around Yorkshire / deep snow etc but want luxury of RR rather than disco.
Anything to particularly look out for? Many seem to have reconditioned gear boxes and new engines!! My 330d had a reconned auto box so not worried so long as its been done properly.
Must be an auto.
Anything to particularly look out for? Many seem to have reconditioned gear boxes and new engines!! My 330d had a reconned auto box so not worried so long as its been done properly.
Must be an auto.
OKK...
much to go wrong here if choose unwisely, so take your time
Check:
Gearboxes (notoriously weak, some cars eat 5 in their lifetimes!)
Differentials: LR issued a recall over this, check its been done.
Service History: worth having.
Engines are pretty strong for the most part, it is the transmission that causes problems.
Make sure the Air Suspension hasn't got any problems.
Go for the 4.4 as the higher prices for TD6 aren't worth it IMO for what is a sluggish engine.
Check that the car hasn't been run on 20" or bigger wheels, as this needed a different kind of steering rack and the cars could have been damaged if big wheels were fitted.
Those are the main problems, and if you get a good one these can be a steal for £8k!
much to go wrong here if choose unwisely, so take your time
Check:
Gearboxes (notoriously weak, some cars eat 5 in their lifetimes!)
Differentials: LR issued a recall over this, check its been done.
Service History: worth having.
Engines are pretty strong for the most part, it is the transmission that causes problems.
Make sure the Air Suspension hasn't got any problems.
Go for the 4.4 as the higher prices for TD6 aren't worth it IMO for what is a sluggish engine.
Check that the car hasn't been run on 20" or bigger wheels, as this needed a different kind of steering rack and the cars could have been damaged if big wheels were fitted.
Those are the main problems, and if you get a good one these can be a steal for £8k!
campaj1 said:
OKK...
Check:
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Check that the car hasn't been run on 20" or bigger wheels, as this needed a different kind of steering rack and the cars could have been damaged if big wheels were fitted.
sorry but that is pure bullsCheck:
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Check that the car hasn't been run on 20" or bigger wheels, as this needed a different kind of steering rack and the cars could have been damaged if big wheels were fitted.
t!!20" wheels were a factory option and there is no difference to the steering rack - also plenty run on 22" (not my choice) you better tell Overfinch to change the steering rack?
the gearbox 'problem' relates to the diesels not the 4.4 V8 petrols
Edited by grand cherokee on Tuesday 2nd April 10:36
I had a td6 2004 vogue and sold it with 120K on the clock
5 gearboxes
9 front diffs
2 turbos
1 transfer box
1 rear axle
I would have another one tomorrow
As a comparison:-
My neighbour has a td6 2004 vogue with 210K on the clock
1 gearbox replaced at 200k, and it is a tow car
no other faults since he purchased it at 3 months old.
Goes to show that for every horror story there is at least one success!
5 gearboxes
9 front diffs
2 turbos
1 transfer box
1 rear axle
I would have another one tomorrow
As a comparison:-
My neighbour has a td6 2004 vogue with 210K on the clock
1 gearbox replaced at 200k, and it is a tow car
no other faults since he purchased it at 3 months old.
Goes to show that for every horror story there is at least one success!
grand cherokee said:
sorry but that is pure bullst!!
20" wheels were a factory option and there is no difference to the steering rack - also plenty run on 22" (not my choice) you better tell Overfinch to change the steering rack?
the gearbox 'problem' relates to the diesels not the 4.4 V8 petrols
erm no. Linkyt!!20" wheels were a factory option and there is no difference to the steering rack - also plenty run on 22" (not my choice) you better tell Overfinch to change the steering rack?
the gearbox 'problem' relates to the diesels not the 4.4 V8 petrols
Edited by grand cherokee on Tuesday 2nd April 10:36
http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/post26130.html
The 20s were only introduced for the later cars WITH DAMPED STEERING RACK.
Overfinch fitted them to these later cars.
It can wreck the drivetrain anyway, and they look stupid imo.
The gearbox problem was the same for the 4.4, they both had the cr*p GM 5 Speed.
http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/post26130.html
Yes the early 4.4 has a 5-speed ZF box (later gets 6-speed). It too can have problems but not as serious an issue as the GM box on the diesel.
With the ZF unit, ZF state the transmission fluid needs changing at 60k miles, LR say sealed for life. Make sure it gets changed if you value the life of the box.
With the ZF unit, ZF state the transmission fluid needs changing at 60k miles, LR say sealed for life. Make sure it gets changed if you value the life of the box.
even the 6spd and 8spd ZFs?
As I say, try telling that to the L322 owner I know who ate through 5!
Anyway, to the OP, even gearboxes aside the petrol is the better choice: they are cheaper to buy, usually better equipped, and not gutless.
Also the fuel costs are actually comparable: the TD6 is heavy on fuel too.
As I say, try telling that to the L322 owner I know who ate through 5!
Anyway, to the OP, even gearboxes aside the petrol is the better choice: they are cheaper to buy, usually better equipped, and not gutless.
Also the fuel costs are actually comparable: the TD6 is heavy on fuel too.
campaj1 said:
even the 6spd and 8spd ZFs?
As I say, try telling that to the L322 owner I know who ate through 5!
Anyway, to the OP, even gearboxes aside the petrol is the better choice: they are cheaper to buy, usually better equipped, and not gutless.
Also the fuel costs are actually comparable: the TD6 is heavy on fuel too.
20" wheels were an option at the launch of the L322 - Overfinch with 22" wheels followed very soon afterAs I say, try telling that to the L322 owner I know who ate through 5!
Anyway, to the OP, even gearboxes aside the petrol is the better choice: they are cheaper to buy, usually better equipped, and not gutless.
Also the fuel costs are actually comparable: the TD6 is heavy on fuel too.
if someone you know went through 5 gearboxes then i'd suggest he's an idiot for using a scrap merchant to supply replacement boxes?
and yes - i use FFRR forum - lol!
Edited by grand cherokee on Thursday 4th April 12:38
grand cherokee said:
campaj1 said:
even the 6spd and 8spd ZFs?
As I say, try telling that to the L322 owner I know who ate through 5!
Anyway, to the OP, even gearboxes aside the petrol is the better choice: they are cheaper to buy, usually better equipped, and not gutless.
Also the fuel costs are actually comparable: the TD6 is heavy on fuel too.
20" wheels were an option at the launch of the L322 - Overfinch with 22" wheels followed very soon afterAs I say, try telling that to the L322 owner I know who ate through 5!
Anyway, to the OP, even gearboxes aside the petrol is the better choice: they are cheaper to buy, usually better equipped, and not gutless.
Also the fuel costs are actually comparable: the TD6 is heavy on fuel too.
if someone you know went through 5 gearboxes then i'd suggest he's an idiot for using a scrap merchant to supply replacement boxes?
and yes - i use FFRR forum - lol!
Edited by grand cherokee on Thursday 4th April 12:38
grand cherokee said:
20" wheels were an option at the launch of the L322 - Overfinch with 22" wheels followed very soon after
if someone you know went through 5 gearboxes then i'd suggest he's an idiot for using a scrap merchant to supply replacement boxes?
and yes - i use FFRR forum - lol!
Oh hi I'm on FFRR too if someone you know went through 5 gearboxes then i'd suggest he's an idiot for using a scrap merchant to supply replacement boxes?
and yes - i use FFRR forum - lol!
Edited by grand cherokee on Thursday 4th April 12:38
Yeah found where I went wrong with steering rack: I was misinformed that this was the case in a recent buyers guide: this was actually a problem for the early semi-skimmed (Sport) range rovers. Even so they operate far better with smaller wheels.
5 Gearboxes is not at all unheard of!
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