Daughter wants to be a teacher...
Daughter wants to be a teacher...
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GTIR

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24,741 posts

295 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Should I be concerned or should I be happy she wants that rather than "to be famous" as she said a couple of years ago?

I used to live with a couple of teachers and they were cretins. Although come to think of it I didn't actually like teachers when I was at school (which may be why I've been on benefits for 10 years.) and was glad to leave at 15yo, all that horrid homework and learning. Yuk.

So. Is teaching an honourable job now and is it something you'd be proud your child to do?




(VinceFox is an exception I'd like to point out.)

dundarach

6,210 posts

257 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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I used to teach - now sit in an office

Pay is excellent, annual progression.

Only trouble is, pay and benefits so good, if you ever get fed up, can't hack it, extremely difficult to find another profession that pays so well.

At least in my neck of the woods!

Others will be along in a mo to give you a completely different answer of course!

RacerMDR

5,582 posts

239 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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My missus is a teacher. She goes to work everyday happy. Makes a difference to kiddies lives in more ways than I ever realised was possible. Comes home happy with her work done.

She earns 1/3 what I earn but doesn't care at all.

I think it's like anything - if you take pride in it, and be great at it, it will make a person very happy

Good luck to her.

Ps missus also trains teachers, and has been doing it a long time, so pm me any specific questions and I'll pass on


drivin_me_nuts

17,949 posts

240 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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teachers who inspire change the world for all of us. Teachers who do it because they can do nothing else kill dreams dead. It's nothing to do with the profession and everything to do with the person. It is. Profession where brilliance changes lives and cretins destroy. What kind of teacher do you think she will be?

Benrad

656 posts

178 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Doing some work experience in schools killed the idea for me. The teachers I worked with were lazy, moaning, all the stereotypes! When I was looking at it I looked at TeachFirst, looks to be a very good scheme. Good luck to her!

Instead I'm off to make sure lorries dont kill polar bears after I graduate, if I ever finish this fking thesis!

RizzoTheRat

28,803 posts

221 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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My Mrs is a maths teacher, first school she worked at she didn't like that much, partly because of some of the other staff's attitudes I think. She's now at a 6th form college and loves it. Pay's not fantastic but not bad, and while she does get long holidays she spends a lot evenings working so total hours are probably similar to a more conventional job.

I reckon it can be a rewarding and honorable job. she certainly gets a kick out of seeing her classes A-level results. I guess many of us remember one or two really good teachers at school that inspired us to be where we are today. Of course many also remember some crap teachers that would put you off the idea too.

Get her to do some some work experience in a school, it's pretty common that they'll take on people who are thinking of going in to teaching to give them an idea what it's like

minimalist

1,516 posts

234 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Benrad said:
....if I ever finish this fking thesis!
You'll never finish it if you keep coming on here. wink

five5

716 posts

282 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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NeMiSiS said:
drivin_me_nuts said:
teachers who inspire change the world for all of us. Teachers who do it because they can't do nothing else kill dreams dead. It's nothing to do with the profession and everything to do with the person. It is a profession where brilliance changes lives and cretins destroy.
This^

More brilliance from one of PH's fonts of knowledge.
I agree.

My wife is a headteacher, she loves her job. She is totally driven by inspiring kids. She often works 80+ hours a week so the concept of short hours is misleading, the teachers that work the 'school hours' are generally those that 'kill dreams dead'.

As above, it all depends on the person - but a hugely rewarding career for the right person.

Plus, the holidays are good! wink

BlackVanDyke

9,932 posts

240 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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I taught while I could. 2 relatives are university lecturers, 3 are primary and secondary school teachers. It's one of the most astonishingly diverse jobs I can think of - it's not just teaching, it's social work, first aid, crowd control, small-scale policing, occupational therapy all rolled into one. AND the teaching.

DMN, as ever, put it about as well as it could possibly be put. A good teacher, someone who's found their vocation, is really really special.

VinceFox

20,566 posts

201 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Hear that c**ts?

I'm EXCEPTIONAL.

Slink

2,947 posts

201 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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its fine, if you want to get home at 5, then start working on pupil progress reports, do planning for the next day, marking the books, other assorted paper work untill 11pm then go to bed, get up go to work and repeat.

my mums a teacher and she gets in at 6ish and has tea, then starts working till midnight some nights most night 11/11:30.

the pay is not great either and then there is dealing with 2 parents evenings a term. teaching students after a couple of years and mentoring NQT's and the numerous times they have people from the gummint in every term to grade the teachers.

all in, i wouldnt do it even for great pay, cause you only get payed for 8 till 3 but in reality you work nearly all day and night.

pad58

12,549 posts

210 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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VinceFox said:
Hear that c**ts?

I'm EXCEPTIONAL.
And a sweary one as well.

LeeMad

1,098 posts

182 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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i want to do it at some point, nothing wrong with teaching at all in my eyes

WhereamI

6,887 posts

246 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Slink said:
all in, i wouldnt do it even for great pay, cause you only get payed for 8 till 3 but in reality you work nearly all day and night.
None of the five teachers I know do that or anything close to it. The stereotype that they barely have to do anything isn't valid but equally the concept that they work all hours isn't either.

Compared to the people I am used to working with the hours are good, there's no concept of having to be at a meeting somewhere far away by 9.30am, no danger of being called out in the middle of the night because something has gone wrong and the holidays are good, being contracted for 190 days is nice.

Personally I'd hate it, but others love it, each to their own.

GTIR

Original Poster:

24,741 posts

295 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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VinceFox said:
Hear that c**ts?

I'm EXCEPTIONAL.
And here endeth the lesson.


I'll chat to her about why she wants to do it but I think I know the answer already. She's already decided she wants to do job experience at a school. smile

Teachers - from school to uni then back to school. What do they know!

VinceFox

20,566 posts

201 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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GTIR said:
VinceFox said:
Hear that c**ts?

I'm EXCEPTIONAL.
And here endeth the lesson.


I'll chat to her about why she wants to do it but I think I know the answer already. She's already decided she wants to do job experience at a school. smile

Teachers - from school to uni then back to school. What do they know!
Glad to help. Now hold my beer while i do a wheelie.

SpeckledJim

33,902 posts

282 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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A good teacher's funeral will be a busy one. In a 30 year career a good teacher will make an unforgettable impression on literally thousands of people. I think there's a lot to be said for that.

TwigtheWonderkid

48,970 posts

179 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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It's like anything. If you're a footballer, you can be Vauxhall Conference standard, or an Champions League regular and seasoned International. Same with teaching. An insperational teacher will have a great career, rise thru the ranks, earn good money and love their job.

A crap teacher will be disillusioned and stuck teaching kids who don't want to listen.

RacerMDR

5,582 posts

239 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
It's like anything. If you're a footballer, you can be Vauxhall Conference standard, or an Champions League regular and seasoned International. Same with teaching. An insperational teacher will have a great career, rise thru the ranks, earn good money and love their job.

A crap teacher will be disillusioned and stuck teaching kids who don't want to listen.
You say that, but as you rise through the ranks you do less and less teaching as far as I can see.


Deva Link

26,934 posts

274 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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BlackVanDyke said:
I taught while I could. 2 relatives are university lecturers, 3 are primary and secondary school teachers. It's one of the most astonishingly diverse jobs I can think of - it's not just teaching, it's social work, first aid, crowd control, small-scale policing, occupational therapy all rolled into one. AND the teaching.
My daughter taught in a very rough school for her first 3 years and barely did any teaching - the other things you mentioned kept her busy.

She then moved to another school pretty well at the other end of the scale and she says she misses the old place!