New build - which D/T & running gear would you choose?
New build - which D/T & running gear would you choose?
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my250gt

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242 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Say you had the opportunity to choose a completely new drivetrain and running gear for a modern day Griff, what would you choose and why?

Example, LS3 engine, Tremec g/box, but which diff, suspension, uprights, brakes, loom etc etc??

Some restraints would be in place such as:- Keeping with the standard basic chassis but this could be updated for roll cage mountings, changes to diff etc.

Be interesting to see what ideas are put forward for debate.

What would make an ideal donor car if all the right bits are to be found on a single current vehicle?

What doesnt need updating for a modern version of an icon?

Chilliman

12,293 posts

184 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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my250gt said:
Say you had the opportunity to choose a completely new drivetrain and running gear for a modern day Griff, what would you choose and why?

Example, LS3 engine, Tremec g/box, but which diff, suspension, uprights, brakes, loom etc etc??

Some restraints would be in place such as:- Keeping with the standard basic chassis but this could be updated for roll cage mountings, changes to diff etc.

Be interesting to see what ideas are put forward for debate.

What would make an ideal donor car if all the right bits are to be found on a single current vehicle?

What doesnt need updating for a modern version of an icon?
For chassis and suspension improvements my first port of call would be here: http://www.sportmotive.com/evochassis.html Appreciate you said 'keeping the basic chassis' but I'd certainly look into whats to gained by revised suspension/hub set ups and increasing torsional stiffness..

LS3 as you mention is probably the best and (now) most proven way to go, but I wouldn't immediately discount an AJP... lots of negatives compared to an LS, but it was built by TVR smile

Don't know enough about gearbox/diff/drive shaft/tyre choices to have an opinion, but from a durability perspective guys like dbv8 and brummmie could probably advise as they spank their cars up the quarter

For Brakes equal to the performance I think you'd need at least 17" rims all round to get the rotors in (320mm?)

Probably not much help but just my two penneth...

Good luck,

Chiili smile

crostonian

2,427 posts

195 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Completely impractical and never going to be cost effective but I'd love to put a Maserati 4.2 V8 out of a 4200 GT into a Griff. At one time I owned a 4200 GT and my father had a Griffith 500, we often thought the Maser engine would be perfect in a Griff - very reliable, high revving and a screaming exhaust note.

7 TVR

2,589 posts

191 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Obviously a bit bias but i'd go LS power with a TKO box uprated drive shafts and diff, its a slippy road though and i've ended up changing nearly every part on the car but think its been worth all the time hassle and money!
I have yet to be convinced by the need to change the chassis as a few chassis mods have left the griff more than capable on handling the 500+hp!
It will be good to see one of sportmotives or RT racing evolution chassis out on track to get a good comparison in the real world smile Maybe a back to back drive would convince biggrin

Chilliman

12,293 posts

184 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Christian I wish you'd stop posting pictures of your engine bay.

Chilli wink

my250gt

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Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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heres another (not mine by ther way, belongs to eff eff)I removed the "corvette" text that some dont like.


V8 GRF

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Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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my250gt said:
Some restraints would be in place such as:- Keeping with the standard basic chassis but this could be updated for roll cage mountings, changes to diff etc.
If I were updating any TVR the chassis is the first element I'd change if I was adding 150 to 200bhp and I'd go even further than than the Sportmotive chassis and look to develop something using updated technology and methods.

my250gt

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Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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V8 GRF said:
If I were updating any TVR the chassis is the first element I'd change if I was adding 150 to 200bhp and I'd go even further than than the Sportmotive chassis and look to develop something using updated technology and methods.
But then surely you would be in the terratory of IVA checks, new car registration, etc as opposed to "restoring" a current vehicle?

What did you have in mind out of interest?

V8 GRF

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Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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my250gt said:
V8 GRF said:
If I were updating any TVR the chassis is the first element I'd change if I was adding 150 to 200bhp and I'd go even further than than the Sportmotive chassis and look to develop something using updated technology and methods.
But then surely you would be in the terratory of IVA checks, new car registration, etc as opposed to "restoring" a current vehicle?

What did you have in mind out of interest?
Yes and no. Technically if you replace the chassis on a TVR you *should* inform the DVLA as it has a chassis number stamped on it. However as with a Lotus the 'chassis number' is also on a plate affixed to the body tub so it's a grey area as to whether the chassis is a subframe or not. Anyway that's a technicality that most people ignore.

I'd be looking at something lighter and stiffer, perhaps an evolution of what was started by the Typhon with it's mix of bonded honeycomb, carbon and alloy but dropping the spaceframe element. Not cheap I know but probably better.