URGENT HELP NEEDED!!!!! Stuck on M4
URGENT HELP NEEDED!!!!! Stuck on M4
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rijmij99

Original Poster:

423 posts

192 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Basically my EGR has packed in while on the way to Wales
What can I do to circumvent it with the tools I have available
I have
A small knife
A small flip screw driver
A tyre iron with a stty plastic end
Lots of available swearing

I have my two girls with me and a very angry wife so all help is appreciated.

Oh it's a ford c max 2.0 tdci on a 54

mondeoman

11,430 posts

297 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Call the RAC / Greenflag / AA - you are covered, aren't you?

rijmij99

Original Poster:

423 posts

192 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Yeah I am covered but for recovery only so I'll end up at Fishguard instead of here. They've been called I'm just covering my bases

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

189 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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The EGR on that can be extracted, cleaned & replaced in 15 minutes flat- I've done it many times.

RH

rijmij99

Original Poster:

423 posts

192 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Yeah I am covered but for recovery only so I'll end up at Fishguard instead of here. They've been called I'm just covering my bases

rijmij99

Original Poster:

423 posts

192 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Hi hawk, yeah I can see it it's just a case of getting to it and then removing it with the kit I have. Hopefully mr aa man does it but I've herd they won't bodge anything for insurance reasons

HustleRussell

26,707 posts

191 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Do EGR valves really immobilise the car when they go wrong? I thought you'd be able to limp it?

rijmij99

Original Poster:

423 posts

192 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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It can limp but I can hit 40 tops and it takes an age to get there. Not too clever on the M4 surrounded by Audis

mini me

1,451 posts

224 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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have you tried just unplugging it?

And how do you know its EGR?

poo at Paul's

14,621 posts

206 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Is it euro 4 or euro 3? Does it have a connector going to it, front left top of motor as you look in the engine bay?

It's likely clogged and clogged the inlet manifold too. Easy remove the valve with a ten mil spanner, and you may find it completely blocked, so make a hole in the crud and it should run.

But you should consider a full clean and remove the inlet mani, and toothbrush clean down the ports too. Then blank the bugger up if you can , euro 3 no issues, but on euro 4 it can cause a light to be on on the dash, unless you make a bleed hole in the blank plate. But then the bleed hole curds up and you have to clean the booger!

rijmij99

Original Poster:

423 posts

192 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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My big fat hands won't reach and from the common concensous is egr

rijmij99

Original Poster:

423 posts

192 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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My big fat hands won't reach and from the common concensous is egr

TommyBuoy

1,299 posts

198 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Hit it with the tyre iron while swearing at it.

This is multiple choice isn't it?

rijmij99

Original Poster:

423 posts

192 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Right I've been recovered to the services and now they're sending another chap.
There are conflicting reports on which bit I need to hit/clean. Is the bit attached to the plastic inlet manifold OR the bit right at the back of the engine? I've been hitting and swearing at random parts of the engine/car/family with no noticeable results

TommyBuoy

1,299 posts

198 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Well in an attepmt to be a little more helpful I saw this on a cmax owners forum (yes, there is one!).

My 2003 TDCi EGR Valve gave up on me today. Called out the AA and they where brill on diagnosing the fault.

If you think your EGR valve is playing up here is a way to determine if it is that at fault;
First disconnect the silver pipe which connects to the plastic inlet manifold, you can do this by releasing the clip which goes round the pipe.

Get a rag and block the inlet valve and while you hold the rag get someone else to start the car and if you get exhaust gas come from the disconnected pipe and the car starts normally then you have just confirmed your valve is stuck open.

To over come the valve fault electrically disconnect the vale and the car will stat with no problems but you will get the Engine management light to come on as it is trying to operate the valve but it is disconnected.

I have just done all the above to my car and it ran like a dream, now its in the garge having the valve and pipe cleaned at a smaller cost than replacing the valve

ETA I wouldn't bother testing if it is - you seem to know this already. The EGR valve will be at the back of the engine block IIRC - I suggest hitting the silver pipe at the back of the engine and if that doesn't work disconnect it is you can - the EGR valve has a flattened round attachment - tap the metal pipe attached...

Edited by TommyBuoy on Wednesday 3rd April 14:39

poo at Paul's

14,621 posts

206 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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rijmij99 said:
Right I've been recovered to the services and now they're sending another chap.
There are conflicting reports on which bit I need to hit/clean. Is the bit attached to the plastic inlet manifold OR the bit right at the back of the engine? I've been hitting and swearing at random parts of the engine/car/family with no noticeable results
It should be the metal bit on the front of the motor attached to the placcy inlet manifold, sort of sits vertically on the front left as you look at the motor.
This is if it is a tdci, if it is a tddi, I think it's round the back.

shadwell davies

73 posts

216 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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rijmij99 said:
Yeah I am covered but for recovery only so I'll end up at Fishguard instead of here. They've been called I'm just covering my bases
Fishguard is a nice place.....

rijmij99

Original Poster:

423 posts

192 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Right so we've blanked the egr off (the aa carry the plates would you believe) and its not changed. It's not throwing any codes up so he's taken it for a spin. Looks as tho its borked to me

TommyBuoy

1,299 posts

198 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Can't believe the AA carry blanking plates. Tells you all you need to know.

If you remember, can you keep us updated - I'd like to know what the problem is.

sunbeam alpine

7,251 posts

219 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Have you tried unplugging the MAF?

(I think this could become the car equivalent of "Have you tried switching it off and back on again?")