Cordless impact guns - achieving correct torque?
Cordless impact guns - achieving correct torque?
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Rgm racer

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130 posts

189 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Could some of you track day drivers/racers that have good experience of impact guns please answer the following.

I see any decent gun will achieve way more than the required ft/lbs or nm of torque to do the wheel nuts up, so does the tool automatically stop/slip once the nuts are tight enough as otherwise surely it will just strip or even shear the thread? And is it then just a case of checking/torquing tight with a wrench to double check tight?

Wh00sher

1,749 posts

241 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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My impact gun always leaves the wheelnuts requiring tightening to the correct torque afterwards.

You`ll struggle to find one that`s powerful enough to strip the threads.

Mr MXT

7,774 posts

306 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Rgm racer said:
Could some of you track day drivers/racers that have good experience of impact guns please answer the following.

I see any decent gun will achieve way more than the required ft/lbs or nm of torque to do the wheel nuts up, so does the tool automatically stop/slip once the nuts are tight enough as otherwise surely it will just strip or even shear the thread? And is it then just a case of checking/torquing tight with a wrench to double check tight?
I was taught you weren't supposed to use impact wrenches to tighten nuts up for this very reason.

Suitable for removal only.

weed

211 posts

264 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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The cordless impact wrenches are good for running the wheel nut/bolts snug to the wheel or for running off fasteners that have had the tightening torque broken. the quality cordless wrenches can break the torque of the fasteners.
Typically, a torque wrench is used to torque the nuts up to the car or wheel manufacturers spec.

The pneumatic driven impact wrenches are what over torque the fasteners and can warp rotors and hubs.

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b16a2_VTi

341 posts

208 months

Thursday 4th April 2013
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I use a Clarke one, brought from machine mart for £90 (think they are about £105 now).
Had mine for a few years now, served me well.

I use them to take the nuts off, i do use it to put nuts on, but not tightening them up too much as i use a touque to ensure they are correctly torqued up.

Saves me alot of time!!

Ricey155

43 posts

196 months

Thursday 4th April 2013
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More of a time saver than anything else for me, still use the breaker bar to undo and tighten

best to be safe

chormy

636 posts

219 months

Saturday 6th April 2013
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Breaker to loosen and do up wheel nuts , rusty nasty nuts impact wrench

HughesR1

286 posts

197 months

Saturday 6th April 2013
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When racing we do it just until the wheel is flush on the hub, or the gun begins to slip. Then we torque with a torque wrench.

Purely depends on how much battery power is in our gun, but never rely on the gun to torque the wheels.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

227 months

Saturday 6th April 2013
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Use a torque limiting socket (or extension). This stops the wheel gun, and leaves the torque of the nut lower than you want, so you can finish them off with a proper torque wrench.



I've been doing this with no problems for a number of years on my track car. Obs it's very important to make sure that the nut is not cross threaded before you start. Cheers

GC8

19,910 posts

213 months

Sunday 7th April 2013
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They arent a combined work tool and measuring tool, so you cant preset the required wheel nut torque. Each time they strike they apply force. The only way to limit the torque is to limit the number of strikes. As mentioned above, you can buy tools which limit the torque making it easier if you are concerned about over tightening.

philevo6

236 posts

225 months

Sunday 7th April 2013
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Wh00sher said:
My impact gun always leaves the wheelnuts requiring tightening to the correct torque afterwards.

You`ll struggle to find one that`s powerful enough to strip the threads.
I disagree....my snap on 18v gun will remove ANY nut and strip/snap any thread if held on too long.

Its a beast!

I always nip them up with the gun then torque up properly.