Lab pup worries.
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2004sti

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68 posts

242 months

Monday 8th April 2013
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Hi, we got our yellow lab Boris 2weeks ago, at 8 weeks old. Up until yesterday he seemed a normal boisterous and troublesome puppy.
We started to notice his behaviour changing yesterday, he seemed to get more aggressive towards us, especially my wife, constantly barking, snapping and biting at her. He settled down later on, but today has been barking a lot and peeing an awful lot. Tonight he went 10 times in 50 mins after he had his food.
We've been a bit worried about how many times he toilets, but he doesn't even have time to go out now, it's almost an instant reaction, he runs to the back door but has peed before you can open it, if he does get outside then he pees then comes in and has another a few mins later.
He has been to the vet today, they want a urine sample tomorrow am, they have given him an examination and nothing felt out of place or swollen which is a bit of a relief but we are really quite worried as in the 2 weeks we've had him, he really has made an impact on our lives.
Has anybody else had a pup with this kind of problem?
Thanks Nigel.

ED209

6,003 posts

268 months

Monday 8th April 2013
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Does he drink a lot before the peeing, the reason i ask is we lost our beautiful lab pup Lucy at 4.5 months old in February due to kidney failure.

Since we got her at around 7-8 weeks old she had always drank a lot and had trouble controlling her bladder, she would pee herself in her sleep and was impossible to toilet train. At the time we (and a vet) were not that concerned and put it down to her being a puppy. It transpired the drinking/peeing were the early stages of total kidney failure.

Hopefully yours will be week bladder muscles or an infection which will be easily solved but you are doing the right think in getting the pup checked.

Heres the thread from when we lost lucy http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...


We have got another pup now but I still have tears in my eyes typing this , I wish we could have her back.



2004sti

Original Poster:

68 posts

242 months

Monday 8th April 2013
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Thanks for the reply, sorry for the loss of Lucy, I read your thread with a lump in my throat when you posted it and again just now. Boris doesn't seem to drink excessively, his peeing session starts not long after eating about 15 mins or so. We do put water in with his kibble but no great amount.
We're hoping its just us being over cautious but it's the mood swings that go with it that are concerning us most, the wife likens it to her brother when he was having a diabetic episode.
Boris is now asleep with his head out of his bed snoring contentedly, blissfully unaware of the worry he is causing us.

ED209

6,003 posts

268 months

Monday 8th April 2013
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I apologise if my horry story causes you undue worry, its probably nothing or something very minor!

Try not to worry about it, you will ned up a paranoid wreck like me! Christ if poppy (our new pup) doesnt eat her food immediately or drinks for longer than 10 seconds I start worrying.

I ma sure things will be fine¬!

bexVN

14,690 posts

235 months

Monday 8th April 2013
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I'm really sorry I don't know where to begin with this one. What I would say is record everything that happens re happens before his behaviour and after. Ensure the vets take this seriously.

If nothing medical is found and I'd suggest a thorough work up then you may need to get some behavioural help.

I hope things settle quickly for all of you.

Gargamel

16,132 posts

285 months

Monday 8th April 2013
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Don't put water in the kibble, not required or switch to a wet food.

Soubds behaviourial rather than medical. Pups learn quickly. Try feeding outside, and leaving outside for a few minutes after.

Could try picking up the water bowl and only putting down at set times?

Barking and snapping doesn't sound great, a firm NO, followed by ignoring should work. be careful not to reward barking with attention.


2004sti

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68 posts

242 months

Monday 8th April 2013
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Thanks for all the replies so far, we're probably panicking over nothing but we would rather be safe. His behaviour is pretty good 90% of the time, it's just after eating he gets aggressive and a bit loopy for 20 mins and its this combined with the amount of peeing in such a small period of time that is a concern for us as it only started last night.

Jasandjules

72,012 posts

253 months

Monday 8th April 2013
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What are you feeding him? Something high in protein?

2004sti

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68 posts

242 months

Monday 8th April 2013
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He started on Purina Beta puppy, but we weaned him into Wainwrights large breed puppy,, which is what he is on now. We did think of changing him onto Burns puppy food.

C3BER

4,714 posts

247 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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If the dog is acting up...growl at it. I'm not joking.

200bhp

5,767 posts

243 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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Ask the vet to run a Lab report wink

2004sti

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68 posts

242 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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Urine sample dropped off at the vets, it's fingers crossed time now to hope that its nothing to worry about.
Doesn't stop us worrying though.

Karyn

6,053 posts

192 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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Fingers crossed for you, OP.


Does your wife feed him?

Agree with the posters above - "log his movements" (i.e. feeding times, number of wee stops, when he drinks, what his behaviour is and when, etc.) and try and introduce some sort of routine for him - get up at a set time, food bowl down at a set time and for a set time only, regular potty stops, regular exercise...



Did I mention about crossed fingers?

2004sti

Original Poster:

68 posts

242 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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Thanks Karyn, Penny feeds him more often then I do, he goes to work with her so spends a lot of time in her presence. To be honest the bad behaviour only manifests after he has eaten, the rest of the time it's just normal nipping, chewing and the occasional bark.
Penny started logging his activities yesterday so has a bit of information for the vet later on. He is meant to be having his 2nd jab today, he will have to wait if the tests show up anything untoward.

2004sti

Original Poster:

68 posts

242 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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Thanks Karyn, Penny feeds him more often then I do, he goes to work with her so spends a lot of time in her presence. To be honest the bad behaviour only manifests after he has eaten, the rest of the time it's just normal nipping, chewing and the occasional bark.
Penny started logging his activities yesterday so has a bit of information for the vet later on. He is meant to be having his 2nd jab today, he will have to wait if the tests show up anything untoward.

2004sti

Original Poster:

68 posts

242 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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Good news, Boris was given a clean bill of health and had his 2nd jab so walkies next week.
On the behaviour front he was still a nightmare after his food. Lasted about 20mins but he calmed down and is his normal bundle of yellow cuteness. The vet has given us a number for a colleague who specialises in behaviour.
Thanks for all the replies, when I work out how I'll put some pics on here.
Nigel

Karyn

6,053 posts

192 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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Glad to hear he's physically fit.

And fingers crossed for the behaviourist; no doubt your good lady continuing to log the little scamp's antics will prove to be of assistance to the chap in his initial assessment. smile

pad58

12,549 posts

205 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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Lab owner here, Hope everything turns out for you and puppy.

ED209

6,003 posts

268 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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Excellent news!!

In other news the mrs has just text me to say our puppy now has a bruised and swollen eye!! It appears she has ran into something. Mrs recons no vet required but we shall see when I get home from work.

bexVN

14,690 posts

235 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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Oh dear!! If the eye itself really is swollen attention may need to be sought tonight.

Good news on Boris. Hope you can get to the bottom of his odd behaviour though.