Suspended on full pay for an investigation.
Suspended on full pay for an investigation.
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dabofoppo

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686 posts

200 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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Hi I was recently taken in for a meeting at work ( I am a support worker) where I was told I was being suspended whilst an investigation took place. I have not been told what the investigation is about the only clue i have is it is over some concerns about my practice ( it has been 2 and a bit weeks since i was suspended) and i have been told i just have to wait until they contact me to come in for a meeting to discuss the investigation and tell me what I have actually done.
How long do things like this normally take? should i be looking for a new job?

Cheers for any help.


randlemarcus

13,646 posts

260 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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Depends if you like being paid to sit around watching daytime telly wink

If you have no clues about what this is about, then I would be getting slightly upset at the reputational damage you are incurring while being suspended - no smoke without fire etc. Given it's a public sector sounding role, then I suspect there is nothing you can do about any of it, and it is simply a fact of life that you will have to put up with. Learn to live with the whole job and culture, or move on.

steveT350C

6,728 posts

190 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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Happened to me recently, took 5 weeks before I was called in. It's not nice not knowing was is going on. You have my sympathies.

h0b0

9,055 posts

225 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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You probably should be using the time to look for a new job.

steveT350C

6,728 posts

190 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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h0b0 said:
You probably should be using the time to look for a new job.
Very good advice!

Should have said so myself.

tori

1,799 posts

210 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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ACAS and Union supported legal advice ASAP. ACAS were brilliant when I dealt with them.


Good luck

Sir Fergie

795 posts

164 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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dabofoppo said:
Hi I was recently taken in for a meeting at work ( I am a support worker) where I was told I was being suspended whilst an investigation took place. I have not been told what the investigation is about the only clue i have is it is over some concerns about my practice ( it has been 2 and a bit weeks since i was suspended) and i have been told i just have to wait until they contact me to come in for a meeting to discuss the investigation and tell me what I have actually done.
How long do things like this normally take? should i be looking for a new job?

Cheers for any help.
Well if i was the boss of your employer - id be having serious concerns about the practice of someone in the company that would suspend an employee without explaining why they are been suspended - and not give the person suspended any opportunity to give their version of events.

Whats annoying me thinking about this is that if you haven't actually done anything wrong - you now potentially have no access to documents/witnesses and other things that might actually help clear your name.

The other thing - is that even if something youve been involved with looks like it might have an issue or 2 with your involvement with it - there might be good reasons why you did something a certain way or took a certain decision.

Something to consider in the contex of putting forward your defence when the time comes...

Do you generally consider that you were doing a good job in your support worker role - are you happy that your "practice" was sound and without issue.

Are/were there issues at work that you didn't cause - but which caused you difficulties and problems in your role and which could lead to issues with work done - which weren't your fault - but yet can be traced back to you - so your now the fall guy for someone elses mistakes.

I mean - im thinking of situations where say - someones workload is too much for one person - and they can't get around to everything - so sometimes something like paperwork might not be filled out correctly.

So youve done the job extremely well under tough circumstances - yet you didn't fill in some paperwork to say the job was done - and in the modern way now - no paperwork means the job wasn't done even though it was doen and was done well.

One more thing - if you genuinely feel youve done nothing wrong - and further action is taken - i personally take the view that you should fight your corner and argue your case as to why you feel you did everything in your role as you were supposed to. Let the company put forward evidence and put forward evidence of your wrong doing if they have actually got evidence - and to be frank a comment along the lines of "concerns about your practice" would suggest to me they hadn't sufficient hard evidence on the day of your suspension.

Could be wrong though - but i feel if they had proper evidence - they would have explained to you at time of suspension what the issues were.

Might be time to get job hunting - if youve done something wrong - i feel the companies actions to date have laid down a marker for how the matter may be finalised.

However - if my gut feeling on this is correct and youve done nothing wrong - i personally would find it very hard to stay with the employer - the sour taste in the mouth might only be cured with a move to another job.

Sir Fergie

dabofoppo

Original Poster:

686 posts

200 months

Wednesday 10th April 2013
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Thanks guys your posts have been extremely helpful. Iv contacted ACAS and the union and Im going to have some support from them. I dont feel like iv done anything wrong and to be honest even if i do not get fired I will be looking for a new job anyway. Whilst I was typing this post I had a phone call telling me Iv to go in on Monday for a meeting where I will be told what has been happening.

steveT350C

6,728 posts

190 months

Wednesday 10th April 2013
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Good luck for Monday! smile

onesickpuppy

2,672 posts

186 months

Wednesday 10th April 2013
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dabofoppo said:
Thanks guys your posts have been extremely helpful. Iv contacted ACAS and the union and Im going to have some support from them. I dont feel like iv done anything wrong and to be honest even if i do not get fired I will be looking for a new job anyway. Whilst I was typing this post I had a phone call telling me Iv to go in on Monday for a meeting where I will be told what has been happening.

Conian

8,030 posts

230 months

Wednesday 10th April 2013
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They should assign you a contact, usually a manager in the organisation.
Usually you're banned from talking to anyone else but your contact.
You should not be in the dark about this.

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

260 months

Wednesday 10th April 2013
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Good advice given to others in similar situations is to treat this as very formal indeed. Ask them about your right to be accompanied by a Union representative, and to delay the meeting until such time as a representative is available.
Take along two devices capable of recording the meeting. One to place on the table and ask permission to record the meeting, and one tucked in your pocket recording it anyway. Take copious notes, writing at your own speed, and not being shy of asking them to repeat things.

G'luck.

Sir Fergie

795 posts

164 months

Wednesday 10th April 2013
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Best of luck with the meeting on Monday

Sir Fergie

_Deano

7,414 posts

282 months

Wednesday 10th April 2013
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If you wanted to play their silly game you could go sick and have it signed off by a doc. Stress would be a good one to play, they can't make you come in for the meeting whilst your sick.

This happened years ago when i used to work for a public sector company and one of the guys from the team played this card - played it for 8 weeks in addition to the suspended time, all full time pay. Eventually he was fired on an assumption and 'beyond reasonable doubt' and no hard facts, but had already lined up a new job for the following week as a contractor and was doing much better afterwards.

If you do go in on Monday though, wish you all the best and that it was a simple misunderstanding.

The Beaver King

6,095 posts

224 months

Thursday 11th April 2013
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It does seem quite ridiculous that a company would suspend you without any kind of insight into why...

I can only assume that they believe if you did do whatever it is they are investigating, then you wouldn't need telling. This is still a stupid thing to do and is assuming guilt before any investigation has taken place.

The only other thing could be that by telling you, it could provide you with an opportunity to hide or correct the action/s. Again, stupid and unlikely.

As others have said, seek legal and union advice.

Good luck OP.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

275 months

Thursday 11th April 2013
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The first step is to find your written Contract of Employment, or Terms of Engagement as they are sometimes called, and see what the written words say about suspension. This is IMPORTANT.

If you have lost your Contract of Employment you should make an immediate written request for your employer to send you a copy.

The contract will almost certainly set out the proper procedure for dealing with a suspension. If it doesn't then your employer may well be in breach of contract by suspending you, which would give you important rights.

As others of said, you need to be talking to your Union or a Lawyer about this WITHOUT DELAY.

dabofoppo

Original Poster:

686 posts

200 months

Monday 15th April 2013
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Cheers guys I was quite nervous going in Today but I feel a lot better now i know what its about. Im still suspended but I should know what the outcome is going to be this week and it is really unlikely that ill lose my job. Thanks for all the helpful advice smile.

BE57 TOY

2,628 posts

176 months

Monday 15th April 2013
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Can you tell us more?

cossy400

3,463 posts

213 months

Monday 15th April 2013
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BE57 TOY said:
Can you tell us more?
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dabofoppo

Original Poster:

686 posts

200 months

Monday 15th April 2013
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I dont want to go into too much detail but a colleague (who works with us once a month) has said they do not think the people i support want me to work with them any more. This is due to one incident they had with the people i support and is a simple misunderstanding.