Has anyone been to look at this Turbo X50 at Portiacraft?
Has anyone been to look at this Turbo X50 at Portiacraft?
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BillTheButcher

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393 posts

191 months

Friday 12th April 2013
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http://www.portiacraft.com/cardetail.asp?make=02_P...

It's cheaper than the black one at JZM even though it's got fewer miles on it.

I've been reading mixed reviews of Portiacraft which makes it difficult to tell whether they're to be trusted or not.



monthefish

20,467 posts

261 months

Friday 12th April 2013
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You buy the car, not the dealer.

Check out the car (to within an inch of its life) and if it's fine, buy it. If you've made the correct assessment of the car, you'll never have to speak to the dealer again.

(Nothing for/against Porticraft BTW)

river_rat

739 posts

233 months

Friday 12th April 2013
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Looked nice when I drove past yesterday (apart from the S badge on the back).

Must stop looking at this though, as it is too tempting...

BillTheButcher

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393 posts

191 months

Friday 12th April 2013
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I won't be changing to a Turbo until later in the year but this is the kind of car I'll be looking for I think.

I've read quite a few reports of increased lag in the X50 (presumably because of the bigger turbos) which is putting me off them a bit. Is it as bad as it's made out to be or is it barely noticeable?

monthefish

20,467 posts

261 months

Friday 12th April 2013
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BillTheButcher said:
I won't be changing to a Turbo until later in the year but this is the kind of car I'll be looking for I think.

I've read quite a few reports of increased lag in the X50 (presumably because of the bigger turbos) which is putting me off them a bit. Is it as bad as it's made out to be or is it barely noticeable?
I was actively seeking (and bought) a non-X50 for this reason.

The standard car is quick enough in my opinion.

Zyp

16,101 posts

219 months

Friday 12th April 2013
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Didn't notice any lag in my X50, only non-X50 cars disappearing in my rear view mirror....

wink

BillTheButcher

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393 posts

191 months

Friday 12th April 2013
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monthefish said:
I was actively seeking (and bought) a non-X50 for this reason.

The standard car is quick enough in my opinion.
Did you try both before buying?

monthefish

20,467 posts

261 months

Friday 12th April 2013
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BillTheButcher said:
monthefish said:
I was actively seeking (and bought) a non-X50 for this reason.

The standard car is quick enough in my opinion.
Did you try both before buying?
yes

If you try a standard car and think it's not quick enough, I'll eat my hat.

Edited by monthefish on Friday 12th April 17:36

steve singh

3,995 posts

203 months

Friday 12th April 2013
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monthefish said:
yes

If you try a standard car and think it's not quick enough, I'll eat my hat.

Edited by monthefish on Friday 12th April 17:36
First rule of being a petrol head - you can never have too much bhp/speed!!! wink

Zyp

16,101 posts

219 months

Friday 12th April 2013
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steve singh said:
First rule of being a petrol head - you can never have too much bhp/speed!!! wink
Winner!

monthefish

20,467 posts

261 months

Saturday 13th April 2013
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steve singh said:
monthefish said:
yes

If you try a standard car and think it's not quick enough, I'll eat my hat.

Edited by monthefish on Friday 12th April 17:36
First rule of being a petrol head - you can never have too much bhp/speed!!! wink
I'd agree....





...if there was no downside.

Angelus

2,209 posts

194 months

Saturday 13th April 2013
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Zyp said:
Didn't notice any lag in my X50, only non-X50 cars disappearing in my rear view mirror....

wink
Zackly, if you drive an X50 and can't live with the lag.......I'll eat my hat. smile

mudy

874 posts

202 months

Saturday 13th April 2013
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Saw it on Monday when I was in getting some paperwork from Martin and spoke to Matt about it - looks in lovely condition, Portiacraft have always been fantastic to me every time I've needed them over the last three years - with me and others I know they stand by their cars

911p

2,361 posts

210 months

Saturday 13th April 2013
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BillTheButcher said:
I've read quite a few reports of increased lag in the X50 (presumably because of the bigger turbos) which is putting me off them a bit. Is it as bad as it's made out to be or is it barely noticeable?
Easily solved with a good remap from Nine Excellence or Fearnsport.

BillTheButcher

Original Poster:

393 posts

191 months

Sunday 14th April 2013
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mudy said:
Saw it on Monday when I was in getting some paperwork from Martin and spoke to Matt about it - looks in lovely condition, Portiacraft have always been fantastic to me every time I've needed them over the last three years - with me and others I know they stand by their cars
Good to hear. Thanks. smile I doubt very much that this particular car will be available when I'm ready to buy (late summer) but I'm sure there will be others.

911p said:
Easily solved with a good remap from Nine Excellence or Fearnsport.
I've also heard good things about MRC Tuning in Banbury. Fast Audis are their speciality but I hear they do a good job on 911 Turbos as well.

DKL

4,969 posts

252 months

Sunday 14th April 2013
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Anyone heard of EPL flash remaps from the US. Any good?

Mr Freefall

2,323 posts

288 months

Monday 15th April 2013
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BillTheButcher said:
http://www.portiacraft.com/cardetail.asp?make=02_P...

It's cheaper than the black one at JZM even though it's got fewer miles on it.

I've been reading mixed reviews of Portiacraft which makes it difficult to tell whether they're to be trusted or not.


114,000 miles. Look for History, History and History, look for all the work that has been done on the car...

If you have a PPI, i'd go for somewhere you get the car on the ramps, check out the turbos, front diff, suspension, oil leaks, brake lines etc.


Mr F

BillTheButcher

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393 posts

191 months

Monday 15th April 2013
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Thanks Mr F. smile

Peter Morgan have been recommended to carry out a PPI. I think that's who I'll be using when I'm in a position to buy later this year.

Mr Freefall

2,323 posts

288 months

Monday 15th April 2013
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BillTheButcher said:
Thanks Mr F. smile

Peter Morgan have been recommended to carry out a PPI. I think that's who I'll be using when I'm in a position to buy later this year.
These cars are getting to a price range where they are affordable now, but get one that needs new suspension, rads, turbo repairs, then you can kiss goodbye to another £5k.

I've used Peter before, you get a good report, and pictures, but there is no insurance to say that other mechanical items are checked.

I'm more thinking here pressure testing the turbo systems for cracking pressures on the Turbos to make sure the wastegates are working, and there are no leaks, or that the actuator rods are all OK, and then compression testing the car. I don't think Peter does this, as the car will have to be on the ramps for this. On 114,000 I would want a compression test, just as a safeguard along with rev range print out for #1 and #2

There will be more cars out there when you are looking, and the K16 cars are quick cars with a little tweaking. In fact 9E use the K16 Turbo base, and get 700HP from it.

http://www.nineexcellence.com/performance/9ETuning...

Have fun, choose wisely, enjoy :-)

Mr F