How to remove this type if locking wheel nut?
How to remove this type if locking wheel nut?
Author
Discussion

hardcastlephil

Original Poster:

352 posts

191 months

Sunday 14th April 2013
quotequote all
Hi all,

As the title suggests - any ideas? Ive just bought a 944 and it appears that one (of many) issues is a lack of locking wheel nut.

I'd rather not drill them out, but that is my only idea at the moment.

Thanks


gog440

9,298 posts

219 months

Sunday 14th April 2013
quotequote all
This might be a daft thing to say but it might be worth approaching your local porsche dealer, if they were dealer fit back in the day they may still be able to get keys etc before you destroy them by drilling them out.

wildoliver

9,308 posts

245 months

Sunday 14th April 2013
quotequote all
There is a way to remove those easily without damaging the wheel.

If you do go down this route I'll pm you how to do it and ask if it's not too cheeky for the remnants of the nuts and sleeves to see if any of it's salvageable as I'm building a set of original lock nuts for my 944.

That said there can't be too many key combinations, I wonder if Porsche do still keep them?

Steffan

10,362 posts

257 months

Sunday 14th April 2013
quotequote all
gog440 said:
This might be a daft thing to say but it might be worth approaching your local porsche dealer, if they were dealer fit back in the day they may still be able to get keys etc before you destroy them by drilling them out.
You may find the various specialist Porsche owners forums have some ideas too. Certainly worth a few enquiries. Drilling these out must be the last answer. I suspect the forums users may well recognise the locks.

P I Staker

3,308 posts

185 months

Sunday 14th April 2013
quotequote all
Weld a nut on to it.

AndyS2

869 posts

287 months

Sunday 14th April 2013
quotequote all
P I Staker said:
Weld a nut on to it.
I'd like to see you do that!

P I Staker

3,308 posts

185 months

Sunday 14th April 2013
quotequote all
AndyS2 said:
P I Staker said:
Weld a nut on to it.
I'd like to see you do that!
I've seen it done, although never had cause to do it myself.

ETA: Although not being familiar with Porsches I've never seen a locker like that, do you know something I don't?

Edited by P I Staker on Sunday 14th April 18:34

Fastra

4,289 posts

238 months

Sunday 14th April 2013
quotequote all
P I Staker said:
AndyS2 said:
P I Staker said:
Weld a nut on to it.
I'd like to see you do that!
I've seen it done, although never had cause to do it myself.

ETA: Although not being familiar with Porsches I've never seen a locker like that, do you know something I don't?

Edited by P I Staker on Sunday 14th April 18:34
I bet it wasn't done in such a deep confined recess such as this though.

clockworks

7,675 posts

174 months

Sunday 14th April 2013
quotequote all
They look very much like the locks fitted to my 964. Porsche dealer will probably have a master set kicking around.

hardcastlephil

Original Poster:

352 posts

191 months

Sunday 14th April 2013
quotequote all
Thanks guys - i could guess that Porsche is my first port of call too. I was also thinking about calling a locksmith??

Does anyone have a pic of how these type work? I.e. whats beneath the lock in the picture? Do they just fasten into the actual nut?

Thanks

jambo103

84 posts

168 months

Sunday 14th April 2013
quotequote all
Able to hammer an 18 or 19 socket on?

Usually works

philmots

4,666 posts

289 months

Sunday 14th April 2013
quotequote all
Use a Dynomec on it. Straight off.

(I think the RAC carry them) so you could conviniently get a puncture down the road.

Wulluff

650 posts

235 months

Sunday 14th April 2013
quotequote all
Can't help thinking there could well be a lot of mud & crap in that keyhole even if you did have the key!

FurballS2000

1,063 posts

194 months

Sunday 14th April 2013
quotequote all
I got some off before by heating a socket with a blowtorch and hammering it on, then undoing it when it had cooled. However the nuts were not recessed like on your wheels so the chance of damage is higher.

wildoliver

9,308 posts

245 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
quotequote all
Please ignore the above.

None of them will work.

As said if you end up having to destroy them to remove them I can help you, it's very simple but a shame to do, doesn't involve special sockets or hammering sockets on at all.

But you really must try to save them as they are NLA and original to the car. I also think a far superior and more reliable system than the later version.

Behind that sleeve is a standard nut with a hole drilled in the end for the lock to fit in, when the locks released it literally just slides off, the key is a small silver flat key looks like a cheap padlock key with either a square head or round head and long shaft and has porsche written on it.

Fastra

4,289 posts

238 months

Friday 26th April 2013
quotequote all
philmots said:
Use a Dynomec on it. Straight off.

(I think the RAC carry them) so you could conviniently get a puncture down the road.
I think Dynomecs only work with the 'shaped' key locks rather than conventional key type locks?



I've had a set of McGard bolts removed from a previous Astra this way, the softer metal of the Dynomec blank is hammered into the shape and thus forms a new key.

elvisjsmith

8 posts

150 months

Saturday 8th March 2014
quotequote all
Hi there, i have the same issue, same lock and i have done the same foollow-up with the OPC. Unfortunately no-luck! I have also bought keys from e-bay that are the correct type but don't function the lock.

How did you end up removing these locks? As said above they are a nice feature and i would like to keep them intact if possible.

Al

TallPaul

1,524 posts

287 months

Saturday 8th March 2014
quotequote all
Screw a slide hammer in and rip the head off- those type were problematic even when new. It should take 5 mins max to do all 4 wheels.