Diagnose a problem for me please...
Diagnose a problem for me please...
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Disastrous

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10,208 posts

246 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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Morning - was looking through some prints I recently got developed from an old Canon A1 and there seems to be a problem in quite a few of them, of vertical bands of light affecting the image.

They are most pronounced on this, under-exposed disaster of a photo, but also present in bright, well-lit daytime shots as well (though much harder to detect.



Any ideas? I'm hoping someone expert will spot the issue immediately and say "Aha! It's a damaged film!" or "Aha! The developers have made an arse of it!" but hopefully not "Aha! He'a cack-handed fool and has done something stupid" (though it would be good to know what) or ""Aha! His camera is broken"

Over to you...


nellyleelephant

2,711 posts

263 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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What are the seals like around the film loading aperture (if that's what it's called!)

sjwb

561 posts

237 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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Shutter blinds damaged?

markmullen

15,877 posts

263 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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I'm guessing a light leak onto the film, either in the camera or in processing.

GetCarter

31,232 posts

308 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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markmullen said:
I'm guessing a light leak onto the film, either in the camera or in processing.
I'd agree with this... Almost 100% light getting in... could easily be in processing, but the only way to tell is to get another film processed, (somewhere else!) then if it's fine, at least you can complain!

K12beano

20,854 posts

304 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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Heavy Spring Onion.

























No!!!! Light Leak!

Magic919

14,465 posts

230 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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I'd be checking the foams on the back door. Should be a strip down the hinge side.

Disastrous

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10,208 posts

246 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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Thanks all. The camera 'ought' to be in good nick as it was my father's and well cared for.


As a further thought, not every image taken (I shot four rolls that weekend) has this problem, so my thinking was a camera problem would be constant?

GetCarter

31,232 posts

308 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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Disastrous said:
Thanks all. The camera 'ought' to be in good nick as it was my father's and well cared for.


As a further thought, not every image taken (I shot four rolls that weekend) has this problem, so my thinking was a camera problem would be constant?
Probably, though not necessarily - I've developed lots of wet film in my time and if you get it slightly wrong only some of the roll will be affected.

...but 'tis most likely light into the camera. Best way to check is look over the camera, if it looks good, take another roll and send to a different lab.

Simpo Two

92,706 posts

294 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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I got some light on my CF card once. It was ruined.

markmullen

15,877 posts

263 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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Simpo Two said:
I got some light on my CF card once. It was ruined.
I find a changing bag useful, it also doubles as a darkcloth for seeing the ground glass.

GetCarter

31,232 posts

308 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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Simpo Two said:
I got some light on my CF card once. It was ruined.
You should be on the tele Simpo smile

Disastrous

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Tuesday 16th April 2013
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GetCarter said:
Disastrous said:
Thanks all. The camera 'ought' to be in good nick as it was my father's and well cared for.


As a further thought, not every image taken (I shot four rolls that weekend) has this problem, so my thinking was a camera problem would be constant?
Probably, though not necessarily - I've developed lots of wet film in my time and if you get it slightly wrong only some of the roll will be affected.

...but 'tis most likely light into the camera. Best way to check is look over the camera, if it looks good, take another roll and send to a different lab.
Thanks GC. I gave it a once over and I can't see any obvious signs of anything having perished etc. (though in fairness, I'm not really sure what to look for) and looking over the photos, I'd say maybe 15% are affected.

I think I'll fire off another roll and send it away. Any ideas where's good for developing?

I used Snappy Snaps before btw, if that means anything to anyone.


Disastrous

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10,208 posts

246 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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In fact, hold the phone.

I've just checked iPhoto from whence I imported each roll as a separate event and it's only present on one roll. The rest are all fine.

So I think I can safely call it a developer error, a cakhanded user or a duff roll. Never mind.

K12beano

20,854 posts

304 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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Doesn't sound too Disastrous then......







getmecoat

Disastrous

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10,208 posts

246 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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K12beano said:
Doesn't sound too Disastrous then......







getmecoat
I think that gag needs a bit more developing...

K12beano

20,854 posts

304 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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Doh! I put it out in B&W.



With film cameras, make sure the spring plate behind the film is sprung properly and clean. But don't put any greasy paw prints on it!

Go carefully round the sealing material to check it's not perished. IIRC the very, very, very lightest Vaseline type grease, from a slightly greasy clean cloth once a decade might be useful on a "hard" rubber seal.

Also check the metal edge around the door, both door and body, for any buckling - apply appropriate smash to keep in shape (that last bit not necessarily serious nono )

Magic919

14,465 posts

230 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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I've only seen foam light seals in 35mm cameras. They tend to break up and/or turn to goo over time.

Simpo Two

92,706 posts

294 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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markmullen said:
I find a changing bag useful
I haven't found one big enough to get in yet, so choose the right clothes before leaving...


Magic919 said:
I've only seen foam light seals in 35mm cameras. They tend to break up and/or turn to goo over time.
From what I recall of such things, the seals were a sort of black velvet, not foam. Foam is always going to break up with time.

Magic919

14,465 posts

230 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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All the ones I saw were foam. Eventually they break down.