Budget £25k - 997 C2S vs 996 C4S
Budget £25k - 997 C2S vs 996 C4S
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StockwellCab

Original Poster:

13 posts

228 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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I sold my 996 cab back in 2008 and after extend period without a 911 I am now looking to get back into Porsche ownership, this time a coupe. Originally I set a budget of £20k and was thinking about a late 996 possibly a C4S. However after a quick search today, I found some great looking 997's and even a few 996 Turbos for circa £25k. I have all but discounted the Turbos as I assume at that price will be expensive to run but would be keen to hear first hand experience.

So do I go for the 996 C4S and keep some cash back for maintenance, or spend £5k more and go with a newer 997 C2S or go for a 996 Turbo smile






LasseV

1,767 posts

163 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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First you really have to decide do you want rear wheel or four wheel drive...

matsoc

853 posts

162 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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997 C2S all the time for me...
Better looking, better interior and most important better to drive thanks to a more capable chassis and rwd.

pkoc

126 posts

230 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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I originally set my sights on 996 C4S ownership with a similar budget.

However, after doing some research and speaking to specialists, they advised due to the potential fragility of the 996 block, if I can get more money together the 996 Turbo will deliver a bullet proof engine and potentially better resale value in the future if I need to get rid of it.

Whilst the interior is the same (I test drive 04' models), and the handling is the same from what I could achieve in normal and semi-fast road test drives, the C4S is a great car. However, stepping from the C4S to the Turbo, the sheer driving experience is massively different, i.e. the sound, the power delivery, the speed, the brute force on acceleration, not to mention the grin on my face. Once you've driven the Turbo there is very little comparison.

It took me 6 months to find the car I wanted in the colour combination, budget, mileage, and condition.

I am now on week 6-7 of Turbo ownership. Can't stop smiling.

matsoc

853 posts

162 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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Real world 911 turbo performances are astonishing. I'd recommend a 997 in that case too but they are still quite expensive. I once had the chance to drive for about half the trip from Turin to Stuttgart in a 997.2 turbo and it is something I won't forget. At the time I had just bought a five years old V8 Vantage 4.3, despite you had to rev it seriously it was comparable in raw pace to the 997.1 S. But a German couple of friends came to visit me with as surprise, they replaced the 1st gen 997 with a brand new 997.2 turbo. The girlfriend was staying in Italy the full month while he had to come back a couple of times for work so once I went back with him to Stuttgart and rent instead of flying to Frankfurt. He generously offered me to drive. Every overtake was just a matter of thinking about it! I am generally a rwd 911s fan but the turbo is so fast that you aren't even thinking at the slighter less pleasant response of the steering. We swapped 2 times after coffee stops and the story isn't so beautiful in the passenger seat. It's not the noise or the ride the problem but the accelerations are quite uncomfortable!

monthefish

20,467 posts

261 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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StockwellCab said:
I have all but discounted the Turbos as I assume at that price will be expensive to run
Not significantly more than a C4S, and potentially less so if you were unluky enough to have engine trouble (which no-one can really quantify the odds of this).

hungry_hog

2,904 posts

218 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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I find the 996 and 7 "feel" quite different. The 996 has heavier controls for both steering and gearchange which I prefer. Also the PSE sounds better than 997 PSE.

Interior and performace wide there's no doubt the 997 is markedly better and I prefer the front lights to my "egg white" versions.

@ PKOC - Are you saying the sound of the turbo is better than the C4s? I find this very surprising

Porsche911Hire

63 posts

220 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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Haven't driven a 997 C2S but own both a 996 C4S and a 997 C2 and can confirm they are very different driving experiences.

Paul O

3,159 posts

213 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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997.

I never understood what all the fuss was about with the 996 C4S.

jonamv8

3,284 posts

196 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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6 Turbo

pdavison

1,641 posts

307 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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Manual C4S cab with PSE (yes I'm biased and yes mine is for sale in the classifieds!)

chiark

118 posts

180 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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Buy the one that you prefer driving smile , but my money would definitely be on the 997 C2S.

6C4GTS

5,186 posts

208 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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Paul O said:
I never understood what all the fuss was about with the 996 C4S.
Exactly who are these so called experts calling it a future classic!!

bullettneil

324 posts

179 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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I went 996 c4s.alot were saying go 997 c2 but I prefer the 6c4s looks (couldnt get to a good turbo and again Although I like the tt I hate its scoops I the arch) I also love the way the 4s drives.it weightiness on steering and heaviness of brake and clutch suits me.plus ive had a few 4wd cars before and like them.
I will admit mine was cheap so it swayed me.but I do prefer the cars looks and Interior over the 7

You need to drive all 3 and decide tbh.

metsta

432 posts

253 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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neither, i had a 996 turbo and didnt like it, now have a 1971T for a bit more money and much prefer it smile totally not practical on a daily basis

Terminator X

20,678 posts

234 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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997 C2S looks beautiful to me esp in dark grey cloud9



TX.

Edited by Terminator X on Wednesday 17th April 21:31

StockwellCab

Original Poster:

13 posts

228 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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Thank you all for your feedback and comments. I think it's test drive time, with my head saying 997 C2S and heart saying 996 Turbo. biggrin

I will let you know how I get on.

bullettneil

324 posts

179 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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The stronger engine and power of turbo would will for me.dont think the 997 enhines is any more reilable than the n/a 6. That daid the amount of bith that goes wrong is minimal imo

monthefish

20,467 posts

261 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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StockwellCab said:
Thank you all for your feedback and comments. I think it's test drive time, with my head saying 997 C2S and heart saying 996 Turbo. biggrin

I will let you know how I get on.
Early 997's are just as prone to engine problems I believe, so for me it was heart saying 996 turbo and head saying 996 turbo (they don't often agree!)
...so I bought a 996 turbo.

But you really must try both and see which you prefer.

chiark

118 posts

180 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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The 997.1 is just as prone to engine issues - notably bore scoring - as the 996.2 from my research. IMS was improved but the other spectres of the engine are still there...
Also bear in mind annual VED will be nearly 500 quid for the 997 if it's registered after March 2006, and 270 for the 996... Hardly a deal killer.