Police Scotlands first national crackdown

[sherman]

Guess what the new Police Scotland are targeting with their first national crackdown.


Is it Burglars? Drugs? Knife crime? Nope. It's speeding.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/po...


I suppose the coffers will be empty after paying for all that newly branded stationary and buildings.

[mybrainhurts]

Seems consistent with King Alex's control freakery bent.

Glad I'm not in danger of coming under his thumb.

[jamieduff1981]

The emphasis in the article seems to be on every type of crap driving and that's a good thing. I just hope they don't fall back the camera vans as the cheapest and easiest way to be seen to be doing something. I can guess though...

[Shenanigans]

Easiest way for them to get money!

[cc8s]

'Transport minister Keith Brown said: "In Scotland we currently have the lowest road casualty figures since records began.

"However we are not complacent and our determination to build on this progress is matched by Police Scotland who also believe that even one death on our roads is one too many.'

I don't think they can actually believe what they are saying: so they have road casualty figures to the lowest ever recorded but they want it to zero. Is that even a realistic goal??

This also belies the fact that a government report highlighted that only 6% of road deaths (IIRC) in the UK were caused directly by speed, with the majority being cause under the umbrella of 'driving with undue care and attention'.

Surely, then, the only way to get deaths to zero is to get rid of drivers? Which in itself is a ludicrous idea.

Do they really think that we are that stupid as to believe that the 'crackdown' is anything beyond a money spinning operation?

How about they focus on crimes that affect more people, crimes that have statistics that are not the 'lowest...figures since records began'?

[Terzo123]

Quoted from SP & L part of the forum

Citizen09 said:

Nothing to do with a new force or new guy:

https://www.tispol.org/news/articles/tispol-begins...

And at opposite ends of the UK:

https://www.durham.police.uk/news-and-events/Pages...

http://www.thamesvalley.police.uk/newsevents/newse...

http://www.north-wales.police.uk/news__appeals/lat...

[LHD]

There is an unmarked green Discovery 4 doing the rounds on a 61 plate. Very discreet. Watch out in the Edinburgh area.

[mybrainhurts]

jamieduff1981 said:

The emphasis in the article seems to be on every type of crap driving and that's a good thing.

The problem here is what constitutes crap driving.

Much of what a competent, fast driver does is deemed crap in the eyes of plod, indoctrinated by a training system that's over the top with risk aversion. You only have to read the words of some plod in SP&L threads here to understand that.

What was deemed sound advice in the 1960s and 70s has been turned on its head by trendy trainers and policy makers who think they know better, but don't.

[dazren]

Have they sorted out the car thief/joy riding neds in Aberdeen yet?

[mybrainhurts]

Doubt it, that's more like hard work and doesn't bring in the £££££££....

[phoenixz]

cc8s said:

'Transport minister Keith Brown said: "In Scotland we currently have the lowest road casualty figures since records began.

"However we are not complacent and our determination to build on this progress is matched by Police Scotland who also believe that even one death on our roads is one too many.'

I don't think they can actually believe what they are saying: so they have road casualty figures to the lowest ever recorded but they want it to zero. Is that even a realistic goal??

This also belies the fact that a government report highlighted that only 6% of road deaths (IIRC) in the UK were caused directly by speed, with the majority being cause under the umbrella of 'driving with undue care and attention'.

Surely, then, the only way to get deaths to zero is to get rid of drivers? Which in itself is a ludicrous idea.

Do they really think that we are that stupid as to believe that the 'crackdown' is anything beyond a money spinning operation?

How about they focus on crimes that affect more people, crimes that have statistics that are not the 'lowest...figures since records began'?

it's actually: only 6% of all major accidents is speeding even a factor. not even the main cause, just a factor. less than 4% of accidents are due to speeding

the real kick in the teeth is that 88% of accidents involving cars and pedestrians are the fault of the pedestrian (again usually due to lack of attention). But despite this the driver is legally and financially automatically at fault

Speeding cameras actually increase accidents rates by up to 30% when they are put in as people are more worried about their speed and not paying full attention to the road, leading to accidents.
Speed cameras are there to generate money and show that councils and politicians are behind the "speeding kills" slogan

So theoretically, the "speeding kills" slogan causes more death than it prevents :P

[Martyboy84]

phoenixz said:

cc8s said:

'Transport minister Keith Brown said: "In Scotland we currently have the lowest road casualty figures since records began.

"However we are not complacent and our determination to build on this progress is matched by Police Scotland who also believe that even one death on our roads is one too many.'

I don't think they can actually believe what they are saying: so they have road casualty figures to the lowest ever recorded but they want it to zero. Is that even a realistic goal??

This also belies the fact that a government report highlighted that only 6% of road deaths (IIRC) in the UK were caused directly by speed, with the majority being cause under the umbrella of 'driving with undue care and attention'.

Surely, then, the only way to get deaths to zero is to get rid of drivers? Which in itself is a ludicrous idea.

Do they really think that we are that stupid as to believe that the 'crackdown' is anything beyond a money spinning operation?

How about they focus on crimes that affect more people, crimes that have statistics that are not the 'lowest...figures since records began'?

it's actually: only 6% of all major accidents is speeding even a factor. not even the main cause, just a factor. less than 4% of accidents are due to speeding

the real kick in the teeth is that 88% of accidents involving cars and pedestrians are the fault of the pedestrian (again usually due to lack of attention). But despite this the driver is legally and financially automatically at fault

Speeding cameras actually increase accidents rates by up to 30% when they are put in as people are more worried about their speed and not paying full attention to the road, leading to accidents.
Speed cameras are there to generate money and show that councils and politicians are behind the "speeding kills" slogan

So theoretically, the "speeding kills" slogan causes more death than it prevents :P

Superb patter!

[Martyboy84]

phoenixz said:

cc8s said:

'Transport minister Keith Brown said: "In Scotland we currently have the lowest road casualty figures since records began.

"However we are not complacent and our determination to build on this progress is matched by Police Scotland who also believe that even one death on our roads is one too many.'

I don't think they can actually believe what they are saying: so they have road casualty figures to the lowest ever recorded but they want it to zero. Is that even a realistic goal??

This also belies the fact that a government report highlighted that only 6% of road deaths (IIRC) in the UK were caused directly by speed, with the majority being cause under the umbrella of 'driving with undue care and attention'.

Surely, then, the only way to get deaths to zero is to get rid of drivers? Which in itself is a ludicrous idea.

Do they really think that we are that stupid as to believe that the 'crackdown' is anything beyond a money spinning operation?

How about they focus on crimes that affect more people, crimes that have statistics that are not the 'lowest...figures since records began'?

it's actually: only 6% of all major accidents is speeding even a factor. not even the main cause, just a factor. less than 4% of accidents are due to speeding

the real kick in the teeth is that 88% of accidents involving cars and pedestrians are the fault of the pedestrian (again usually due to lack of attention). But despite this the driver is legally and financially automatically at fault

Speeding cameras actually increase accidents rates by up to 30% when they are put in as people are more worried about their speed and not paying full attention to the road, leading to accidents.
Speed cameras are there to generate money and show that councils and politicians are behind the "speeding kills" slogan

So theoretically, the "speeding kills" slogan causes more death than it prevents :P

Superb patter!

[bluejj]

sherman said:

Guess what the new Police Scotland are targeting with their first national crackdown.


Is it Burglars? Drugs? Knife crime? Nope. It's speeding.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/po...


I suppose the coffers will be empty after paying for all that newly branded stationary and buildings.

Actually the FIRST campaign undertaken by the Police Service of Scotland took place last Friday and was a campaign to reduce violence that resulted in some people being arrested. Maybe you missed it in the press??

[mybrainhurts]

bluejj said:

sherman said:

Guess what the new Police Scotland are targeting with their first national crackdown.


Is it Burglars? Drugs? Knife crime? Nope. It's speeding.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/po...


I suppose the coffers will be empty after paying for all that newly branded stationary and buildings.

Actually the FIRST campaign undertaken by the Police Service of Scotland took place last Friday and was a campaign to reduce violence that resulted in some people being arrested. Maybe you missed it in the press??

Guess what the second campaign was...

[johnycarrera]

Why, despite being told repeatedly on PH does everyone still think that the filth keep the money from the speeding fines???

Fines are paid directly to the courts who then pay HM Treasury. It does not then just get paid back to the Babylon!

[6C4GTS]

johnycarrera said:

Why, despite being told repeatedly on PH does everyone still think that the filth keep the money from the speeding fines???

Cos the see coppers driving fancy motors!!

[johnycarrera]

6C4GTS said:

Cos the see coppers driving fancy motors!!

Lol