Gas hob leaking on the boat
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m0ssy

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920 posts

221 months

Friday 19th April 2013
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Whilst doing the checklist for the BSC, the bubble tester found a leak in my gas system.

I took everything apart, and managed to identify the leak to be coming from the valve directly under the valve connected to the flame control switch on the hob.

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This is the part that is leaking. It is situated under the gas hob. The leak seems to be coming from around or above the thread area.

Can it be fixed or am I looking at purchasing a new hob?


dirkgently

2,160 posts

260 months

Friday 19th April 2013
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m0ssy said:
Can it be fixed or am I looking at purchasing a new hob?
Its hard to say without eyes on, it can probably be repaired. How much do you like your boat?

civicduty

1,857 posts

232 months

Friday 19th April 2013
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PTFE tape?

MOTORVATOR

7,602 posts

276 months

Friday 19th April 2013
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civicduty said:
PTFE tape?
Only on taper fittings and should be the thick grade if using. Flare or compression fittings shouldn't have tape near them use boss white instead.

Real men don't do bubble tests after, they use a naked flame to prove their joint. wink

mickrick

3,759 posts

202 months

Friday 19th April 2013
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Do you have a gas detector in the bilge direcly below it?

Simpo Two

92,670 posts

294 months

Friday 19th April 2013
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Meh, Araldite the fker.

I had a bodger friend; he did everything with car body filler. Professional bodgers use Araldite.



NB This must be a new boat as you sold the Colvic IIRC.

Kneetrembler

2,069 posts

231 months

Friday 19th April 2013
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mickrick said:
Do you have a gas detector in the bilge direcly below it?
Why not just sort it, anything on a boat/yacht with a Gas leak is life threatening, ( no point at you as a professional skipper ) just a why not get it sorted.

When you are free Mick, we have a decent bed for you here and some decent R&R

Neil

m0ssy

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920 posts

221 months

Friday 19th April 2013
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Gentlemen... always an informative experience on BT&P.

However Dirk has it spot on.

I love my boat, but love my family more so will get a new hob as cannot risk it.

and for the record.... the reason I know the leak is from that specific point is because I used a naked flame to find it tongue out (man point me up)

Yes simpo, a new boat, did 1200 miles single handed from greece - slovenia then across the channel from zeebrugge in winter. Waves that would make your hair curl.... if you had any tongue out

Simpo Two

92,670 posts

294 months

Friday 19th April 2013
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m0ssy said:
Yes simpo, a new boat, did 1200 miles single handed from greece - slovenia then across the channel from zeebrugge in winter. Waves that would make your hair curl.... if you had any tongue out
I think the last of it fell off on a certain Sunseeker when the front went up and we all nearly rolled off the back like human depthcharges.

As for waves, last week I was crossing Biscay when were hit by a 70mph squall. It was curious to see one's wine tilt... and stay tilted. We learned later that one of the swimming pools had ended up in a restaurant. Must try the Russian Convoy route next time...



MOTORVATOR

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276 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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Ya big Jessie. The transom door was shut so you wouldn't have rolled right out. smile

Mossy official press release on Tuesday at City Hall so looks like June is on. I'll let you know next week but you are booked in at the moment.

m0ssy

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920 posts

221 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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Count me 100% IN motorvator biggrin


mickrick

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202 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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Kneetrembler said:
mickrick said:
Do you have a gas detector in the bilge direcly below it?
Why not just sort it, anything on a boat/yacht with a Gas leak is life threatening, ( no point at you as a professional skipper ) just a why not get it sorted.

When you are free Mick, we have a decent bed for you here and some decent R&R

Neil
Howdo Neil?

Of course it needs fixing, but what if he hadn't found the leak?
Gas on a boat makes me shudder!
I prefer to use the liquid pipe sealants these days on NPT. Although some gas fittings rely on a rubber seal.
If you value the life of your family get a gas detector/alarm in the bilge ASAP. They're cheap enough.

MOTORVATOR

7,602 posts

276 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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Mick makes a fair point actually Mossy.

We are inherently lazy fkers on boats and don't isolate the gas every time we make a cuppa and easy to forget about the Butane heavier than air bit when you're oiling up a deckhand the engines with a gitane hanging out the corner of your mouth.

mickrick

3,759 posts

202 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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And while I have my fluoro jacket, hard hat, clipboard, and HSE head on wink

It's also good to have a solenoid in the line, in the gas locker (with overboard drain) which is activated by a switch next to the hob.
A switch which is illuminated when the gas is turned on. Then at least you don't have to keep going to the gas locker to isolate it, and it's easy to see if it's been left on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxm3uMy6MPI

m0ssy

Original Poster:

920 posts

221 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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MOTORVATOR said:
Mick makes a fair point actually Mossy.

We are inherently lazy fkers on boats and don't isolate the gas every time we make a cuppa and easy to forget about the Butane heavier than air bit when you're oiling up a deckhand the engines with a gitane hanging out the corner of your mouth.
Speak for yourself chap, I only ever turn my gas on when in use, and as for tea, thats what the kettle and the vetus generator is for biggrin

But donning my wise cap I completely agree. Im going to buy a gas detector for the bilges.



MOTORVATOR

7,602 posts

276 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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m0ssy said:
MOTORVATOR said:
Mick makes a fair point actually Mossy.

We are inherently lazy fkers on boats and don't isolate the gas every time we make a cuppa and easy to forget about the Butane heavier than air bit when you're oiling up a deckhand the engines with a gitane hanging out the corner of your mouth.
Speak for yourself chap, I only ever turn my gas on when in use, and as for tea, thats what the kettle and the vetus generator is for biggrin

But donning my wise cap I completely agree. I'm going to buy a gas detector for the bilges.
Only bit of gas on mine is the barbie, oh and a little bit of build up when we have Simpo over but we can hardly follow him about with a detector without making him feel uncomfortable. biggrin

m0ssy

Original Poster:

920 posts

221 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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MOTORVATOR said:
m0ssy said:
MOTORVATOR said:
Mick makes a fair point actually Mossy.

We are inherently lazy fkers on boats and don't isolate the gas every time we make a cuppa and easy to forget about the Butane heavier than air bit when you're oiling up a deckhand the engines with a gitane hanging out the corner of your mouth.
Speak for yourself chap, I only ever turn my gas on when in use, and as for tea, thats what the kettle and the vetus generator is for biggrin

But donning my wise cap I completely agree. I'm going to buy a gas detector for the bilges.
Only bit of gas on mine is the barbie, oh and a little bit of build up when we have Simpo over but we can hardly follow him about with a detector without making him feel uncomfortable. biggrin
that will be hard as travelling above 5 knots makes simpo uncomfortable.... lowest gearing will be above that even if you leave one engine in neutral! biggrin

Simpo Two

92,670 posts

294 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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m0ssy said:
that will be hard as travelling above 5 knots makes simpo uncomfortable.... lowest gearing will be above that even if you leave one engine in neutral! biggrin
Actually once I got the hang of leaning forward like a ski-jumper it was fine smile

What boat do you have then, this one with the dodgy hob?