Puncture on C4S - Tyre Wear issue
Puncture on C4S - Tyre Wear issue
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London GT3

Original Poster:

1,071 posts

271 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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My 991 C4S has done 3,800 miles and picked up a puncture on the front offside wheel as a result of one of those pesky cable clips. The tread depth of the existing punctured tyre is 6.7mm inside, 7.2mm centre, 7.4 mm outside.

Am I OK fitting a brand new (presumably 8mm) tyre to the front offside assuming the front nearside has similar wear to the punctured tyre. My concern is not to cause any damage to the 4WD and differential.

Alternatively, would the puncture be repairable (see below) given the location on the tyre or will it be too close to the shoulder. At least a repaired tyre wont cause problems with differential wear.

So my options appear to be:

A) 1 new tyre
B) 2 new tyres
c) repair existing tyre

I am happy to take any option but I don't want to spend £500 if £250 will do, or £250 if £25 will do.

Thoughts?


Thejimreaper

3,178 posts

235 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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Definitely repairable as its in the centre section of the tyre. No issues with changing one if you had to.

Matt Seabrook

563 posts

281 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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Thejimreaper said:
Definitely repairable as its in the centre section of the tyre.
Am I looking at the same photo as you? It looks like the cable clip is in the left hand side/shoulder.

thegoose

8,077 posts

240 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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Matt Seabrook said:
Thejimreaper said:
Definitely repairable as its in the centre section of the tyre.
Am I looking at the same photo as you? It looks like the cable clip is in the left hand side/shoulder.
I guess he's just seen the tiny nail in the middle (which may not have even punctured the tyre).

I've seen punctures that close to the sidewall repaired which worked fine (fully vulcanised repair) but I don't know if it's within the BS.

Thejimreaper

3,178 posts

235 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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thegoose said:
Matt Seabrook said:
Thejimreaper said:
Definitely repairable as its in the centre section of the tyre.
Am I looking at the same photo as you? It looks like the cable clip is in the left hand side/shoulder.
I guess he's just seen the tiny nail in the middle (which may not have even punctured the tyre).

I've seen punctures that close to the sidewall repaired which worked fine (fully vulcanised repair) but I don't know if it's within the BS.
Ah my bad! I assumed that white area to the left was just some random debris! I would say that is to close to the outside edge for a repair.

rhkumar

164 posts

186 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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That looks repairable to me.

crystalmethod

1,322 posts

209 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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So the advice is nice and consistent then :-)

Apologies for not being able to give a massively informed pov, but have had the same rubbish dilemma before. I bought one new tyre and everything seemed to be fine.

Sandy59

2,733 posts

241 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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I'd take it to a decent tyre specialist and get their advice.
To me it 'looks' far enough from the side wall to be repairable, the worst that could happen with a small hole in that area, would be a slow puncture again if it didn't work I'd have thought.
I am assuming mostly legal road use though.

Slaav

4,370 posts

240 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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I would be tempted to repair it!

But wait for the various - 'you have a 991 but are worried about £250/500' posts that non forum people may post....

I have repaired a few mainly due to wear issues and I was not simply prepared to chuck a perfectly good nearly new tyre.

Sometimes we are all a little too precious smile

NBTBRV8

2,066 posts

238 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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That is repairable.

London GT3

Original Poster:

1,071 posts

271 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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Decision made. I am going to order a new tyre and when they take the old one off I will assess if it is repairable. If it is then I will put it back on and keep the new tyre for future use or If it is not repairable then I will just put one new tyre on. In addition to the detail I provided above, I realise that I drove on the flat tyre for a total of say 1/4 mile at 20mph and that may have knackered the side wall.

thegoose

8,077 posts

240 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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London GT3 said:
Decision made. I am going to order a new tyre and when they take the old one off I will assess if it is repairable. If it is then I will put it back on and keep the new tyre for future use or If it is not repairable then I will just put one new tyre on. In addition to the detail I provided above, I realise that I drove on the flat tyre for a total of say 1/4 mile at 20mph and that may have knackered the side wall.
Sorry, but I think your logic is slightly flawed, for a reason that you may not have considered. If it turns out it can be repaired you will then have a new one-off tyre, which will be a different age to any that you may fit with it in future. I appreciate you may have to do this now if the puncture's not repairable but if it is I'd not buy the new one - wait until you need a pair and buy them matched.

London GT3

Original Poster:

1,071 posts

271 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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thegoose said:
Sorry, but I think your logic is slightly flawed, for a reason that you may not have considered. If it turns out it can be repaired you will then have a new one-off tyre, which will be a different age to any that you may fit with it in future. I appreciate you may have to do this now if the puncture's not repairable but if it is I'd not buy the new one - wait until you need a pair and buy them matched.
You make a very good point. I suppose in my mind I am 80% certain that I will just put the new tyre on and maybe keep the repaired tyre as a "just in case I ever need it" type spare eventually taking it down the tip when it has kicked around the garage for a year or two! I am concerned about any hidden damage to the side wall and on the basis that no one seems to think I will damage the 4WD by replacing just one tyre then this looks like the preferred route.

sundayjumper

531 posts

312 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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BS AU 159 specifies the repairable area as the central 70% of the tread. That puncture doesn't look like it's repairable under the standard.

http://www.btmauk.com/data/files/Minor_repairs_to_...

Stick a new tyre on, ~1mm difference side to side is not a problem.


Matt Seabrook

563 posts

281 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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It's difficult to say from you photo it looks a little touch and go to me. British standards are what it needs to be repaired to for it to be safe. So the best thing is to take it to a tyre retailer that you trust and ask for an opinion. Tyres over 200 section can have the centre 70% repaired so that leaves 15% each side and unfortunately yours looks to be beyond that. We use a transparent template put over the tyre to check anything that looks that close.

sundayjumper

531 posts

312 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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Snap biggrin

London GT3

Original Poster:

1,071 posts

271 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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New Decision: Fit new tyre and throw away the old one! Thanks for the advice.

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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Previous posters are being very selective in showing information relating only to minor repairs which require a rubber only repair.

A major, or reinforced repair, is certainly possible in that area but not above V speed rating so your tyre is ruled out. That's assuming that it is outside of the central 70%.




mollytherocker

14,465 posts

239 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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I would certainly have that repaired.

Cost aside, it's pretty wasteful to bin that.

At least sell it for someone else to use.

lj04

410 posts

221 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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are you sure that clip is source of puncture ?