Maths question
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Jandywa

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Sunday 21st April 2013
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A hockey puck starts sliding across some horizontal rough ice with an initial speed
of 9 m/s. It slides for 45m before stopping. Find the coefficient of friction

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

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255 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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45 miles is an awful long rink? biggrin

ATTAK Z

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209 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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I bet it's 5 but can't prove it

Simpo Two

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285 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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And 9 miles per second is awfully fast biggrin

Damn Frenchies.

I have no idea, 45/9?

Jandywa

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Sunday 21st April 2013
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
45 miles is an awful long rink? biggrin
i believe it is regulation size biggrin

ATTAK Z

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209 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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Jandywa said:
......... Find the coefficient of friction
I'd be asking which stupid bar-steward lost it in the first place

SMGB

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159 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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0.1

Jandywa

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Sunday 21st April 2013
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SMGB said:
0.1
i think you might be right

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

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255 months

Sunday 21st April 2013
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But science friction burns your fingers

(You need to be a certain age to get that biggrin)

fido

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Sunday 21st April 2013
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I get ..

0.9 / g which is close to 0.1

tank slapper

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Sunday 21st April 2013
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fido said:
I get ..

0.9 / g which is close to 0.1
I agree.

Simpo Two

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Sunday 21st April 2013
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Jandywa said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
45 miles is an awful long rink? biggrin
i believe it is regulation size biggrin
Wait a minute, if you mean that's the size of the ice rink then it might have gone ker-thunk into the side, in which case it still had speed after 45m so the coefficient of slideyness is lower than you thought. It can't travel more than 45m no matter how hard it is hit (until it punches through the side of course) nuts

paranoid airbag

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179 months

Friday 26th April 2013
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formulas_for_constant... is your friend, specifically the second equation, often written as:

v^2 = u^2 + 2*a*s

since by stating 'find the coefficient of friction' the question is sort of implying you can assume constant deceleration. v is your starting velocity (9), u the final velocity (0), a is acceleration (what you want to find) and s the distance. Rearrange and you should get a = 0.9, you know from newton's second law that

Force (F) = mass (m) * a

and the coefficient of friction (mu) is the ratio of the friction forcce (m*a, above) to the contact force (equal here to the weight, which is equal to m*g):

mu = m*0.9/m*g = 0.9/g

tank slapper

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Saturday 27th April 2013
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The alternate method to that is to use the fact that all the kinetic energy has been dissipated by the time the puck comes to rest:

Energy is force acting over a distance, so E = F*d.

Kinetic energy is E = 1/2*m*v^2

so 1/2*m*v^2 = F*d

The frictional force is F = μ*N where N = m*g so we get

1/2*m*g = μ*m*g*d

m cancels out

1/2*g = μ*g*d

so μ = v^2 / 2*g*d

substitute the known values and you get μ=0.9/g.


TwigtheWonderkid

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170 months

Saturday 27th April 2013
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
But science friction burns your fingers

(You need to be a certain age to get that biggrin)
A certain age, or from Swindon.