New gauges - what do you all think?
Discussion
I've been planning a bit of a refurb of the dash as basically all my gauges lie and - being the original "ETB" gauges then they're almost impossible to get senders for.
Anyway - I rather like these Smiths "Flight" gauges (even though the rev-counter is rather boring) as they have a nice 270 degree sweep on the smaller gauges which gives a good "resolution" but whilst still keeping an old school look...
Comments? Suggestions for alternatives?
Phil
Anyway - I rather like these Smiths "Flight" gauges (even though the rev-counter is rather boring) as they have a nice 270 degree sweep on the smaller gauges which gives a good "resolution" but whilst still keeping an old school look...
Comments? Suggestions for alternatives?
Phil
GasMunkey said:
- chuckle* I was hoping for for/against comments on the gauges themselves or specific suggestions for alternatives...
We're on the same wave length, but I don't have the budget at the moment. I'd like to get the smiths white telemetric gauges. They look very similar to my current ones, but have matching senders etc. This would be an end to dodgy gauges!
Personally I find the black ones too dark and not sure how effective they would be with the dim dash at night.
Personally I find the black ones too dark and not sure how effective they would be with the dim dash at night.
Hope the fuel one has good damping - your tank doesn't so it could end up looking like a metronome 8-/
The oil pressure BAR thingie would have me doing mental multiplication with 15.7 times the whole numbers....well 2 x 15.7 and that's it, so long as it was higher than 2?? - 8-))
Couldn't you find a dual gauge for oil temp/press, so have a spare hole for the CANEMS which could show you the fuel mixture or similar??
Just a few comments ?
Trev
The oil pressure BAR thingie would have me doing mental multiplication with 15.7 times the whole numbers....well 2 x 15.7 and that's it, so long as it was higher than 2?? - 8-))
Couldn't you find a dual gauge for oil temp/press, so have a spare hole for the CANEMS which could show you the fuel mixture or similar??
Just a few comments ?
Trev
What about the ETB gauges? You can select the face colour, 52mm and come with a matching sender for the same price?
https://www.europaspares.com/product/0/16267/Etb_5..._Sender___350_05274004_.html
https://www.europaspares.com/product/0/16267/Etb_5..._Sender___350_05274004_.html
chris1972 said:
We're on the same wave length, but I don't have the budget at the moment. I'd like to get the smiths white telemetric gauges. They look very similar to my current ones, but have matching senders etc. This would be an end to dodgy gauges!
Personally I find the black ones too dark and not sure how effective they would be with the dim dash at night.
Agreed on the "black" gauges maybe being too dark but there seems to be a bit of a scarcity of 270 degree auxiliary gauges in a light dial that have a *DECENT* looking speedo and tacho to go with them and I think the "Flight" gauges have decent white backlighting ... thing is I'll have to have a new dash cut for me as I have changed all the warning light locations which basically means that I'll probably have to go with a carbon fibre dash so that'll be dark too. Personally I find the black ones too dark and not sure how effective they would be with the dim dash at night.
Anyway - I'm sort of toying with the plan of getting a couple of minor gauges a month and then the tacho and speedo on consecutive months to spread the cost...
K4TRV said:
Hope the fuel one has good damping - your tank doesn't so it could end up looking like a metronome 8-/
LOL - I'll need to fit a new sender to the tank (in fact I'd need all new senders all round) and I *THINK* I found a circuit a while ago that could be used to damp out a fluctuating fuel level sender...K4TRV said:
The oil pressure BAR thingie would have me doing mental multiplication with 15.7 times the whole numbers....well 2 x 15.7 and that's it, so long as it was higher than 2?? - 8-))
LOL - True but at the same time I suspect you'd soon get used to looking at it and going "4 ... Cool", "7 ... Hmmm?", "2 ... Sheeeeeeeeetttttt!"...K4TRV said:
Couldn't you find a dual gauge for oil temp/press, so have a spare hole for the CANEMS which could show you the fuel mixture or similar??
I did look for one but they just look messy - plus finding a "nice" AFR gauge that matches everything else is pretty much game over. I do have a 52mm AFR gauge that came with my wideband (and seems to act as an interface between the wideband lambda and the CANEMS) but it looks really cheap and nasty and I'll probably end up "hiding" it somewhere.K4TRV said:
Just a few comments ?
Trev
Nope - that's the kind of thing I was looking for... Trev
chris1972 said:
What about the ETB gauges? You can select the face colour, 52mm and come with a matching sender for the same price?
https://www.europaspares.com/product/0/16267/Etb_5..._Sender___350_05274004_.html
I did look at those and they're my second choice ... I do like the 270 degree movements though. https://www.europaspares.com/product/0/16267/Etb_5..._Sender___350_05274004_.html
K4TRV said:
Hope the fuel one has good damping - your tank doesn't so it could end up looking like a metronome 8-/
If it doesn't then this...https://www.spiyda.com/magento/index.php/
...might help - the 'Gas Gauge Wizard' (found by Dave recently) is an interface between gauges and senders and has the option of a damping module add-on.
Hi Phil,
If matching your original gauges to freely available senders is your goal then I have a neat solution.
In my quest to make my second TVR petrol gauge (which works backwards at 240 - 0 ohm) work with my LPG sender (which is 0-90 ohm) I have uncovered a little gem.
How about a little box of electronics that can make any gauge work 100% accurately with more or less any sender, even if the signal needs reversing.
The solution I've found is far more accurate than our crude Range Rover temp sender mod (which is just a 170 ohm resistor).
Not only can you get any sender to work with any gauge , importantly this clever box of tricks can be adjusted to allow for gain too.
Being able to adjust the gain means truly 100% accurate readings across the full range of your gauge.
It's a very smart solution, and it's just £35.00 per gauge, so cheaper than buying new gauges.
And there's another clever box of tricks that allows you to tune your rev counter so that reads accurately for the first time, it also dampens the signal to eliminate the wavery needle syndrome
Interested?
If matching your original gauges to freely available senders is your goal then I have a neat solution.
In my quest to make my second TVR petrol gauge (which works backwards at 240 - 0 ohm) work with my LPG sender (which is 0-90 ohm) I have uncovered a little gem.
How about a little box of electronics that can make any gauge work 100% accurately with more or less any sender, even if the signal needs reversing.
The solution I've found is far more accurate than our crude Range Rover temp sender mod (which is just a 170 ohm resistor).
Not only can you get any sender to work with any gauge , importantly this clever box of tricks can be adjusted to allow for gain too.
Being able to adjust the gain means truly 100% accurate readings across the full range of your gauge.
It's a very smart solution, and it's just £35.00 per gauge, so cheaper than buying new gauges.
And there's another clever box of tricks that allows you to tune your rev counter so that reads accurately for the first time, it also dampens the signal to eliminate the wavery needle syndrome
Interested?
ChimpOnGas said:
Hi Phil,
If matching your original gauges to freely available senders is your goal then I have a neat solution.
In my quest to make my second TVR petrol gauge (which works backwards at 240 - 0 ohm) work with my LPG sender (which is 0-90 ohm) I have uncovered a little gem.
How about a little box of electronics that can make any gauge work 100% accurately with more or less any sender, even if the signal needs reversing.
The solution I've found is far more accurate than our crude Range Rover temp sender mod (which is just a 170 ohm resistor).
Not only can you get any sender to work with any gauge , importantly this clever box of tricks can be adjusted to allow for gain too.
Being able to adjust the gain means truly 100% accurate readings across the full range of your gauge.
It's a very smart solution, and it's just £35.00 per gauge, so cheaper than buying new gauges.
And there's another clever box of tricks that allows you to tune your rev counter so that reads accurately for the first time, it also dampens the signal to eliminate the wavery needle syndrome
Interested?
Yes If matching your original gauges to freely available senders is your goal then I have a neat solution.
In my quest to make my second TVR petrol gauge (which works backwards at 240 - 0 ohm) work with my LPG sender (which is 0-90 ohm) I have uncovered a little gem.
How about a little box of electronics that can make any gauge work 100% accurately with more or less any sender, even if the signal needs reversing.
The solution I've found is far more accurate than our crude Range Rover temp sender mod (which is just a 170 ohm resistor).
Not only can you get any sender to work with any gauge , importantly this clever box of tricks can be adjusted to allow for gain too.
Being able to adjust the gain means truly 100% accurate readings across the full range of your gauge.
It's a very smart solution, and it's just £35.00 per gauge, so cheaper than buying new gauges.
And there's another clever box of tricks that allows you to tune your rev counter so that reads accurately for the first time, it also dampens the signal to eliminate the wavery needle syndrome
Interested?
ChimpOnGas said:
Hi Phil,
If matching your original gauges to freely available senders is your goal then I have a neat solution.
In my quest to make my second TVR petrol gauge (which works backwards at 240 - 0 ohm) work with my LPG sender (which is 0-90 ohm) I have uncovered a little gem.
How about a little box of electronics that can make any gauge work 100% accurately with more or less any sender, even if the signal needs reversing.
The solution I've found is far more accurate than our crude Range Rover temp sender mod (which is just a 170 ohm resistor).
Not only can you get any sender to work with any gauge , importantly this clever box of tricks can be adjusted to allow for gain too.
Being able to adjust the gain means truly 100% accurate readings across the full range of your gauge.
It's a very smart solution, and it's just £35.00 per gauge, so cheaper than buying new gauges.
And there's another clever box of tricks that allows you to tune your rev counter so that reads accurately for the first time, it also dampens the signal to eliminate the wavery needle syndrome
Interested?
I pointed out your discovery a few posts earlier at about 8:10 this morning - that's a good find. If matching your original gauges to freely available senders is your goal then I have a neat solution.
In my quest to make my second TVR petrol gauge (which works backwards at 240 - 0 ohm) work with my LPG sender (which is 0-90 ohm) I have uncovered a little gem.
How about a little box of electronics that can make any gauge work 100% accurately with more or less any sender, even if the signal needs reversing.
The solution I've found is far more accurate than our crude Range Rover temp sender mod (which is just a 170 ohm resistor).
Not only can you get any sender to work with any gauge , importantly this clever box of tricks can be adjusted to allow for gain too.
Being able to adjust the gain means truly 100% accurate readings across the full range of your gauge.
It's a very smart solution, and it's just £35.00 per gauge, so cheaper than buying new gauges.
And there's another clever box of tricks that allows you to tune your rev counter so that reads accurately for the first time, it also dampens the signal to eliminate the wavery needle syndrome
Interested?
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