Corporate Manslaughter ...?
Corporate Manslaughter ...?
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G Man

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4,053 posts

283 months

Wednesday 29th September 2004
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With Corp Manslaughter charges being made against railway execs
Death by DD against motorists

I think incompedent council traffic dept should face CM charges.

My case:

The A420 Oxford to Swindon road, a very dangerous road to overtake on where speeds can very from 60 to 40 mph in peak times.

One spot near Faringdon catches out motorist who overtake and many end up continuing around the bend on the wrong side of the road with obvious results

Very resently a young pregnant died here just yards from a previous headon which burnt and melted the tarmac.

Sadly the council is obsessed with reducing the speed limit to 50 and installing 7 camera in a 20 mile this stretch and missing the obvious

Put some double white lines on this bend.

Should the council face Corp Man charges for failing to ensure reasonable safety on this road...

I know what I think

G MAN

garygfx

25 posts

258 months

Thursday 30th September 2004
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I don't think a council is a corporation. I can't see how they could be done for that since they haven't neglected the road in the same sence that railtrack/jarvis failed to carry repairs to a satisfactory standard. But from what you described it does seem rather loony that this hazard hasn't been taken care of sensibly.

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

267 months

Thursday 30th September 2004
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But on the track the Train Driver has to go on the route of his rails with no option of deviation other than by signalman.

On a road its a free choice what you do. Rough road you slow down, move over.................don't you?

DVD

swilly

9,699 posts

297 months

Thursday 30th September 2004
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Write to the council, get your complaint and views on the issue in writing and formal.

If it occurs again then the council may be guilty of failing in their duty of care or something similar.

Councils are there to represent us, we pay for them, they are not beyond our reach.

cen

593 posts

258 months

Thursday 30th September 2004
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I do not believe many local authorities would have someone qualified to address the problems concerning unsafe roads.

However, lets be honest if if a road requires double white lines then it would be plain to the careful driver that it is a unsafe place to overtake. Unfortuneatly we cannot stop the idiots getting from A to B in the shortest possible time.

But I sincerely do believe there should be a body set up of professionable people to address the problems of bad roads. They do exist, the majority of our A roads were designed and built in the 60`s. They were no doubt fine then however, the volume of traffic as increased on a vast scale coupled with the extra power in modern day vehicles that the said roads have now become a danger.

It will no doubt take another 20 years before these matters are addressed. The day of the camera is coming to a close but no doubt some bright spark will come up with another scam.

Mr E

22,714 posts

282 months

Thursday 30th September 2004
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G Man said:

The A420 Oxford to Swindon road, a very dangerous road to overtake on where speeds can very from 60 to 40 mph in peak times.


That road is camera alley.

Every makes progress down it, slows for the cameras, and then nails it off into the distance as well.

nonegreen

7,803 posts

293 months

Thursday 30th September 2004
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Please try to keep up. Corporate manslaughter is there to define in law that those in charge of corporations wield power and therefore have responsibility. The whole purpose of government, both local and national is to wield power with no responsibility. The local authority traffic department will be responsible to the local sandalist council. They will only be following orders. The local sandalist council will be full of drugs and savethewhalehugatreemanrightoncarsarebad bullshit.

You cannot win, even if you try to get elected, unless you declare you hate cars and speed kills then you will be aligned with the BNP and banned.

The best bloodless solution is possibly to have entire councils sectioned under the mental health act.

stumartin

1,706 posts

260 months

Thursday 30th September 2004
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The council isn't a corporate body, but more to the point it's a public authority and hence not subject to normal legal actions.

If you were hell-bent on some sort of action, I think the best you could hope for would be to petition a judicial review of the decisions taken by the authority in relation to road safety on that particular stretch of road. However, you would have to show locus standi (be an 'interested' party) and satisfy the many other obstacles to mounting a JR, not least whether the decision is capable of being reviewed, before you'd get anywhere near a full hearing.

Then there'd be the matter of obtaining credible evidence about the circumstances surrounding the decision...so, your best bet would be to say "oh, what a shitter, the country's going down the pan etc (insert as desired)" and move on to the next thread.

motorbiker

44 posts

266 months

Thursday 30th September 2004
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At the moment four councils are under review by the CPS for corate manslaughter in road deaths.