Ron Dennis & McLaren - Trouble brewing?
Ron Dennis & McLaren - Trouble brewing?
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_Batty_

12,268 posts

279 months

Friday 26th April 2013
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http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/449518/McLa...
Nothing to do with F1, but the road car division arnt doing as well as they'd hope.

stuttgartmetal

8,145 posts

245 months

Friday 26th April 2013
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Shares?
He sold no doubt because he was made an offer he couldn't refuse.
Billionaire arab buys his shares.
The company posts profits down.
The shares fall in value.
Ron buys them back cheap.

Classic little legs strategy.
Bernies been doing it for years.

Pozidriva

5 posts

186 months

Friday 26th April 2013
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Amus may have got it wrong.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula-one/22307813

"McLaren deny that Ron Dennis has been demoted"

revrange

1,182 posts

213 months

Friday 26th April 2013
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All very strange, still get the feeling all is not well at Mclaren

Laughingman21

590 posts

240 months

Friday 26th April 2013
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_Batty_ said:
http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/449518/McLa...
Nothing to do with F1, but the road car division arnt doing as well as they'd hope.
That story doesn't make sense. It states that he own 15% of the shares, but then says he doesn't have voting rights. That sounds very unlikely to me.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

262 months

Friday 26th April 2013
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I would suggest that the story makes no sense as it is a bullst story.

It is such a surprise that it appeared in the main GERMAN car magazine and that there is absolutely nothing to corroborate their ‘story’.

Merc must be pissed off that Mclaren will be powered by Honda next year.

Rich_W

Original Poster:

12,548 posts

241 months

Friday 26th April 2013
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The initial message was deleted from this topic on 26 April 2013 at 20:40

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

284 months

Friday 26th April 2013
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Rich_W said:
He denies that story (he would say that, wouldn't he) But apparently would quite like to usurp Whitmarsh from his role at Racing due to the general lack of success under his stewardship. RD denies that as well. wink But the last Constructors championship for McLaren was 1998! Exist to win and all that.


Whilst many don't like him and he does seem a bit lacking in the charisma stakes. I cannot believe him being forced out/demoted would be a good thing for McLaren. He took them from not so goods to the colossus they are today. You don't do that by accident.
Would be happy if he went back to the f1 team.

Shaw Tarse

31,886 posts

232 months

Mermaid

21,492 posts

200 months

Friday 26th April 2013
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Time to move on, past performance is no guarantee of future success. Fresh blood.

Rich_W

Original Poster:

12,548 posts

241 months

Friday 26th April 2013
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Rude-boy said:
Merc must be pissed off that Mclaren will be powered by Honda next year.
Why? The deal is that next year they have to pay for their engines. If Merc really wanted to keep McLaren on board they'd do a deal accordingly. Worth noting that it's not a Merc/AMG based engine in their road cars so things have been cooling for a while.

joewilliams

2,004 posts

230 months

Friday 26th April 2013
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Wasn't Ron stepping back from the f1 team part of the 'deal' surrounding the 2007 debacle?

That may not matter now Max has moved on though.

rubystone

11,254 posts

288 months

Friday 26th April 2013
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There seems to have been some moderation at work here?

As to the story, I can think of several people who would want to perpetuate a juicy number such as this.

The road car division was always intended to make losses of course. Sad if the Ojjeh story is correct though; they were very close.

Crafty_

14,053 posts

229 months

Friday 26th April 2013
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joewilliams said:
Wasn't Ron stepping back from the f1 team part of the 'deal' surrounding the 2007 debacle?

That may not matter now Max has moved on though.
Wasn't part of the deal, Ron just thought it would be better for the team, seeing as Max hated him so much.

FWIW the story has been completely denied by McLaren who say Ron remains on the board, still has voting rights and that the road car division is on track to make a profit this year.

Merc sold their stake in the team some time ago, as someone above says if Merc really wanted to keep McLaren they could and would.

AMuS do cme out with some crazy stories at times.

toppstuff

13,698 posts

276 months

Friday 26th April 2013
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This seems to me to be a totally bogus story. Absolute BS.

Given the fact that we have the chairman of the co absolutely rejecting the claims, there really is nothing left. I am surprised its even being reported.

But there may be an explanation. As said elsewhere in this thread, I suspect the "journalist" is dancing to the tune being played by another actor here. Deliberate mischief making.

If so, it is pretty poor form.

FeelingLucky

1,183 posts

193 months

Saturday 27th April 2013
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Rude-boy said:
I would suggest that the story makes no sense as it is a bullst story.

It is such a surprise that it appeared in the main GERMAN car magazine and that there is absolutely nothing to corroborate their ‘story’.

Merc must be pissed off that Mclaren will be powered by Honda next year.
When did you make that one up?

McLaren have a contract with Mercedes for 2014, and options thereafter.

belleair302

7,008 posts

236 months

Saturday 27th April 2013
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I believe Ron and Mansour Ojjeh have more of an arms length friendship these days due to Ron and his wife Lisa separating a few years ago. Kathy Ojjeh and Lisa were very close and the divorce did not go down well.

rubystone

11,254 posts

288 months

Saturday 27th April 2013
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belleair302 said:
I believe Ron and Mansour Ojjeh have more of an arms length friendship these days due to Ron and his wife Lisa separating a few years ago. Kathy Ojjeh and Lisa were very close and the divorce did not go down well.
When you consider the circumstances that led to the divorce, that is a shame.

Rich_W

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12,548 posts

241 months

Saturday 27th April 2013
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rubystone said:
belleair302 said:
I believe Ron and Mansour Ojjeh have more of an arms length friendship these days due to Ron and his wife Lisa separating a few years ago. Kathy Ojjeh and Lisa were very close and the divorce did not go down well.
When you consider the circumstances that led to the divorce, that is a shame.
The rumour I heard regarding their divorce didn't mention anything about the Ojjehs confused Or are you just saying that the Ojjehs were disappointed in the situation generally and the person that was at fault?

Paddy_N_Murphy said:
Why the delete Rich?
Some moderator just smashed the 2 threads together (the original and my newer/duplicate one) It didn't make any difference. Just re-iterated what others had said. But it read wrong so I pulled it smile

Mermaid

21,492 posts

200 months

Saturday 27th April 2013
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I blame Hamilton wink