£3.4m In Fines In North Wales Alone
£3.4m In Fines In North Wales Alone
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wanty1974

Original Poster:

3,704 posts

271 months

Friday 1st October 2004
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/3705666.stm

A truly shocking amount... and what are they spending the money on? Not policing obviously, but enlarging the police station that handles the fines. You couldn't make it up.

The Wiz

5,875 posts

285 months

Friday 1st October 2004
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£496,000 to the Treasury .....no wonder the govt loves speed cameras.

gh0st

4,693 posts

281 months

Friday 1st October 2004
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Its not about money, its about road safety!








ohhhhhh man that hurts!!!

einion yrth

19,575 posts

267 months

Friday 1st October 2004
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It isn't about money, all of the money raised is piddling small change to the government. Scameras serve two purposes;
1) Gets people of the roads... this is a big political aim of the current times, remember all pollution is the private motorists fault.
and...
2) As a useful, but not essential, side effect, it provides employment to a lot of small minded vindictive, and otherwise unemployable, little peasants who will doubtless grow up to reliably vote for the incumbent govenment.

pdV6

16,442 posts

284 months

Friday 1st October 2004
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I can't believe he got away with saying this:

Tom O'Donnell said:

The authority's director of finance Tom O'Donnell said: "Most fines go to the government, so I suppose all fines could be considered some sort of tax."


Has Brunstrom sent the bully boys around to his home, yet?

gh0st

4,693 posts

281 months

Friday 1st October 2004
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**BREAKING NEWS**

Tom O'Donnell was today found dead in his home in an apparent suicide bid.

This was investigated by South Wales police who came to the conclusion that he beat himself to death with the stalk of a speed camera then shot himself in the eye. After doing this he made his way downstairs and beat himself to death with a frozen cumberland sausage and then died of natrual circumstances peacefully in his sleep, with no outside intervention whatsoever.

When Richard Brunstrum was asked for comment he merely replied "Speed Kills, he shouldnt have died so quickly or he would not be dead now" whilst collapsing in a fit of twitching.

Tafia

2,658 posts

271 months

Friday 1st October 2004
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einion yrth said:
It isn't about money, all of the money raised is piddling small change to the government. Scameras serve two purposes;
1) Gets people of the roads... this is a big political aim of the current times, remember all pollution is the private motorists fault.
and...
2) As a useful, but not essential, side effect, it provides employment to a lot of small minded vindictive, and otherwise unemployable, little peasants who will doubtless grow up to reliably vote for the incumbent govenment.


Spot on Sir,

I and others have been saying it for years. It's about control and the removal of as many licences as possible.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

278 months

Friday 1st October 2004
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gh0st said:
some **BREAKING NEWS** that made me choke to death .......nearly


Apache

39,731 posts

307 months

Saturday 2nd October 2004
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einion yrth said:
It isn't about money, all of the money raised is piddling small change to the government. Scameras serve two purposes;
1) Gets people of the roads... this is a big political aim of the current times, remember all pollution is the private motorists fault.
and...
2) As a useful, but not essential, side effect, it provides employment to a lot of small minded vindictive, and otherwise unemployable, little peasants who will doubtless grow up to reliably vote for the incumbent govenment.


close, getting rid of private transport is the main issue for all politicians full stop

Richard C

1,685 posts

280 months

Saturday 2nd October 2004
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einion yrth said:
As a useful, but not essential, side effect, it provides employment to a lot of small minded vindictive, and otherwise unemployable, little peasants who will doubtless grow up to reliably vote for the incumbent govenment.


But theres plenty of jobs for these scum out there as incentivised traffic wardens....there are now secret training camps in North Wales where they take normal people and beat the humanity out of them to fill these jobs.

deltaf

6,806 posts

276 months

Saturday 2nd October 2004
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Richard C said:

einion yrth said:
As a useful, but not essential, side effect, it provides employment to a lot of small minded vindictive, and otherwise unemployable, little peasants who will doubtless grow up to reliably vote for the incumbent govenment.



But theres plenty of jobs for these scum out there as incentivised traffic wardens....there are now secret training camps in North Wales where they take normal people and beat the humanity out of them to fill these jobs.


We could always use these tossers for landfill..... thats where most shit ends up anyway. Scamera partnerships? :tossersmiley: needed.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

278 months

Saturday 2nd October 2004
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deltaf said:


We could always use these tossers for landfill..... thats where most shit ends up anyway. Scamera partnerships? :tossersmiley: needed.


Take your pick......

........

only joking.....

Streetcop

5,907 posts

261 months

Saturday 2nd October 2004
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mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

278 months

Saturday 2nd October 2004
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Streetcop

5,907 posts

261 months

Saturday 2nd October 2004
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Chesterfield Road

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

278 months

Saturday 2nd October 2004
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Wrong....waterpistols at dawn.

You choose place.........

GreenV8S

30,999 posts

307 months

Saturday 2nd October 2004
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I remember reading an article recently, maybe even here on PH, where somebody (CPS?) was saying that it was inappropriate to enforce laws where the burden of enforcement was greater than the impact of the crime - or something to that effect. A little while ago, the AA (I think) were recomending action to improve lane discipline as a way to improve traffic flow and reduce congestion, and they came up with some pretty high figures for the 'cost' of congestion. Similarly, from time to time people trot out some pretty high figures for the cost of a road accident.

Does anyone have any equivalent figures for the true cost of speed enforcement (extra journey time for those who do comply, and for those that don't and are caught and lose their license, reduced quality of life, reduced life expectancy due to stress, loss of job, house, family etc)? Can we associate a similar cost with increased journey times caused by artificially low speed limits and deliberately provoked congestion?

It annoys me to have my taxes wasted (imo) enforcing laws that do more harm than good, and it annoys me even more to face the prospect of losing my own license (not happened yet, but the way things are changing it is only a matter of time) for no significant benefit. I'm sure I'm not the only one, but so far I don't see any clear argument to oppose it with.

Streetcop

5,907 posts

261 months

Saturday 2nd October 2004
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mybrainhurts said:
Wrong....waterpistols at dawn.

You choose place.........


Norton airfield

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

278 months

Saturday 2nd October 2004
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Streetcop said:




Norton airfield



Done....be there at dawn.......

Streetcop

5,907 posts

261 months

Saturday 2nd October 2004
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Seriously though....we'll have to meet near there some time for a chat...