Porsche F1
Author
Discussion

helen goff

Original Poster:

800 posts

265 months

Sunday 3rd October 2004
quotequote all
?
"In a surprise announcement, Porsche AG has announced that it is purchase Jaguar F1 Racing for an undisclosed sum.

'Although our one-make racing series has proven extremely popular, Porsche AG acknowledges that in order to continue to be at the forefront of motorsport it is necessary for us to compete at the highest level. We aim to repeat the success we enjoyed with McLaren in the 1980's as a technical partner, but as a full factory entrant' comments an official press release.

'Although Porsche is best known for its Le Mans success, we feel that the current level of competition would not give us the challenge we are seeking'

No announcement has yet been made regarding drivers".

dazren

22,612 posts

287 months

Sunday 3rd October 2004
quotequote all
Helen, where did you get this from?

DAZ

peterpeter

6,438 posts

283 months

Sunday 3rd October 2004
quotequote all
Blimey!!!

Hope this is for real.

It might just get me back into the sport, after 3 years of just watching the starts and checking the result later.
ANd 1 year of not bothering at all.

diver944

1,854 posts

302 months

Sunday 3rd October 2004
quotequote all
I wonder if they have a version of the V10 Carrera GT engine that would meet the F1 rules? Obviously it needs to be downsized from its 5.7 litres to 3 litres

williamp

20,225 posts

299 months

Sunday 3rd October 2004
quotequote all
diver944 said:
I wonder if they have a version of the V10 Carrera GT engine that would meet the F1 rules? Obviously it needs to be downsized from its 5.7 litres to 3 litres


Doubt it on a racing engine there is no surperflous weight or size, and changing an engine from 5.7 down to 3 litres would need very large, thick (read heavy) cylinder liners, whcih would waste weight and materials.

Its the same argument against Ferrari F50 owners saying their engine is based on an F1 engine- the F1 engine has no superflous material whatseoever, nevermind enough to "find" and extra 1.7 litres by bore/ stroke enlargement

Getting back to the story, I will be surprised if Porsche did. I know they had success with engine supply in the past (and not so much success- remember the Footwork??) but a whole car is compleatly different. Plus, I don't think Porsche would unless they could be successful at it- and that means beating the old eneny, Ferrari. And that seems very unlikely at the moment

oddman

4,028 posts

278 months

Sunday 3rd October 2004
quotequote all
Google reveals nothing about Porsche F1 apart from the 804 (early '60s)

If Porsche were going to do F1 (which is unbelievable), I think they'd start from scratch not by purchasing an unsuccessful Ford team.

Helen please put us out of our misery

T

warmfuzzies

4,348 posts

279 months

Sunday 3rd October 2004
quotequote all
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah


didn't read the last lines did we.....................................................................................................................


k1p

johnny senna

4,073 posts

298 months

Sunday 3rd October 2004
quotequote all
I reckon this is cobblers.

captain kaos

44 posts

261 months

Sunday 3rd October 2004
quotequote all
I'm not sure Porsche could'nt afford to run an F1 team at a competitive level.

Melv

4,708 posts

291 months

Monday 4th October 2004
quotequote all
Did't somebody say they saw Jackie Stewart at MIRA in a Porsche recently??

Rgds
Mel

clubsport

7,406 posts

284 months

Monday 4th October 2004
quotequote all
I looked through reuters,AP,bloomberg news services etc.....no trace of the story.
It looks as improbable as it is unlikely.

rubystone

11,254 posts

285 months

Monday 4th October 2004
quotequote all
It has a ring of truth about it, but I am aware that Tony Purnell has no pressure to make a decision before November. Secondly, the deal has to include Cosworth - no mention of that in Helen's prose.

The final nail in the coffin to bury this story is that VW & Porsche have such a close relationship that Porsche AG would never cast such aspersions on their colleagues - producers of the Cayenne/Tuareg and supplier of components.

Much more likely that VW might buy Jaguar, although once again, there are rumours that they have an option to purchase Sauber in 2006.

Glenn McMenamin

2,305 posts

264 months

Monday 4th October 2004
quotequote all
I've just left a message with my mate that works for Jaguar F1, to ask if he knows anything of this.


Will report back asap


G.

Glenn McMenamin

2,305 posts

264 months

Monday 4th October 2004
quotequote all
Just spoke to mate, he says that he doesn't know anything about this, and that the only company that he thinks are in negotiations to buy them is Red Bull !!



Nice thought while it lasted though !!!



G.

uk952

769 posts

285 months

Monday 4th October 2004
quotequote all
go back to the pcgb forum and read the later posts!

Then post it on rennlist

Tony

Glenn McMenamin

2,305 posts

264 months

Monday 4th October 2004
quotequote all
OK, OK..........I'll get my coat

Melv

4,708 posts

291 months

Monday 4th October 2004
quotequote all
Kevin -you spoilsport!!

Mel

peterpeter

6,438 posts

283 months

Monday 4th October 2004
quotequote all
captain kaos said:
I'm not sure Porsche could'nt afford to run an F1 team at a competitive level.



Agreed,

porsche is one of the most succesful car manufacturers in the world. They must be richer than Ferrari (ok theres no fiat backing), so I cant see why not.

iguana

7,323 posts

286 months

Monday 4th October 2004
quotequote all
peterpeter said:

captain kaos said:
I'm not sure Porsche could'nt afford to run an F1 team at a competitive level.




Agreed,

porsche is one of the most succesful car manufacturers in the world. They must be richer than Ferrari (ok theres no fiat backing), so I cant see why not.


You are kidding right?

No way that on its own Porsche has big enough pockets for F1, yeah it has become from the rocky times to make very good profits & is now a very sucessful independant company, however the costs in F1 are so absolutely mind boggleingly (is that a real word ) massive that no way could Porsche afford to front an entire F1 team.

Developing on an engine for a team on the other hand- well that may indeed be another matter, the engineering department in Porkerland has fingers in many pies & with the new F1 engine size on the cars who knows..

peterpeter

6,438 posts

283 months

Monday 4th October 2004
quotequote all
iguana said:

peterpeter said:


captain kaos said:
I'm not sure Porsche could'nt afford to run an F1 team at a competitive level.





Agreed,

porsche is one of the most succesful car manufacturers in the world. They must be richer than Ferrari (ok theres no fiat backing), so I cant see why not.



You are kidding right?

No way that on its own Porsche has big enough pockets for F1, yeah it has become from the rocky times to make very good profits & is now a very sucessful independant company, however the costs in F1 are so absolutely mind boggleingly (is that a real word ) massive that no way could Porsche afford to front an entire F1 team.

Developing on an engine for a team on the other hand- well that may indeed be another matter, the engineering department in Porkerland has fingers in many pies & with the new F1 engine size on the cars who knows..


oh im sure, but presumably ferrari dont front the whole cost either.? Its all the sponsors etc. But if fiat did put big money in, why dont they get any credit??