Looking for bike engined kitcar
Looking for bike engined kitcar
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DeanoRR

Original Poster:

140 posts

196 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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After selling my supercharged TVR Griffith, I'm now on the hunt for a replacement toy and am very taken by the MK Indy with the Fireblade engine fitted. I've never been in one and don't really know much about them, so is their anyone in the Wiltshire, Hampshire or Oxfordshire areas that would be prepared to show me around their car? I live in the new forest near Southampton.

RemaL

25,071 posts

255 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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knowing many people who have had bike engine kit cars (owning a kit car and bike) and driven a bike engine kit car.

Unless you intend to do short trips or trackdays you will not have it long. What 100% of bike engine kit car owners I have now have done.

Cracking on track, amazing on track (unless your on a bike wink ) but not really for long journeys

OliilO

212 posts

158 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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My parents are in Hampshire, so I visit there fairly frequently. I've only had my Mac#1 Worx a few weeks, but you'd be welcome to have a look/ride when I'm next in the area if that's any use? Probably won't be for 2 or 3 weeks though...

Huff

3,366 posts

212 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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I'm in Bath, with a different BEC - Fisher Fury R1. I'd happily meet up somewhere over your way if your interested (& if the weather allows!)

3years /8Kmiles in, and wouldn't swap it for anything. Uncompromising & hard work - heck yes; but it also rewards like nothing else.

Furyblade_Lee

4,114 posts

245 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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RemaL said:
knowing many people who have had bike engine kit cars (owning a kit car and bike) and driven a bike engine kit car.

Unless you intend to do short trips or trackdays you will not have it long. What 100% of bike engine kit car owners I have now have done.

Cracking on track, amazing on track (unless your on a bike wink ) but not really for long journeys
You don't know at least 15 of us mate! That sort of comment does not really help, 10 of us are taking bike engined cars 2,500 miles in 10 days through the Spanish Pyranese back up through the Alps, and we have done every year for the last 5 years.

OOhh I propmised myself to not get involved anymore.... smash



DeanoRR

Original Poster:

140 posts

196 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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Thanks for the replys so far chaps. Well after my TVR, it was 99% set up for trackday/sprint/hillclimb use, and wasnt that great on long journeys. I did drive it to Spa and the Ring one year, but it gave me mega backache. I also know about having to constantly check the car for anything broken/hanging off etc. I love the look of the Westfield/Mk Indy/Worx cars. I have a budget of around £6500-£7000. It will be used for local blasts and trackdays and hillclimbs. I have a Rangerover and trailer for the longer runs, although a long continental run in a group sounds tempting. What are you guys spending on road tax and servicing for the blade/r1 engined cars. Are they easy to service yourself, and is there a decent insurance company that specialises in these cars. I'm 39 with a clean license. Would love to see the Worx when your next in Hampshire.

Huff

3,366 posts

212 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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Furyblade_Lee said:
You don't know at least 15 of us mate! That sort of comment does not really help, 10 of us are taking bike engined cars 2,500 miles in 10 days through the Spanish Pyranese back up through the Alps, and we have done every year for the last 5 years.
Don't worry, there are some equally-deranged people who understand why biggrin

OP - tax is cheap, 135/yr, and servicing is essentially 1-litre sportsbike service schedule for consumables. Plus tyres and fuel. Blinking cheap for the performance on offer.

jontysafe

2,370 posts

199 months

Saturday 11th May 2013
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You "may" miss the torque coming from a supercharged TVR. All depends on your driving style really. I tried a megablade and hated it so went a different route. No question they offer fantastic smiles per pound.
If you want a go in a car engined westie, albeit a 500bhp one, I'm in Hampshire. smile

DeanoRR

Original Poster:

140 posts

196 months

Saturday 11th May 2013
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Would be good to see how the cossy lump compares to the bike engine. It will only be used for Sunday blasts and trackdays/hillclimbs. I'll email you my number, want to try and do as much homework on them as possible before I decide. How do the car engine/bike engines compare on insurance, I'm 39 with a clean license.

OliilO

212 posts

158 months

Saturday 11th May 2013
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Not sure on how they compare, but should generally be fairly low. I'm 26, no points or claims and it cost me £250 for mine (954 fireblade engine).

jontysafe

2,370 posts

199 months

Saturday 11th May 2013
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Thanks for the PM DeanoRR. I`m 39 and I pay well under £200 even with all my mods listed and an agreed value policy.
When she`s back from Reyland Motorsport and run in properly, i`d say give it three weeks then you`re more than welcome to come over. Bring a helmet!

Edited to add I may know of a cossie engined one coming up at around your budget.

Edited by jontysafe on Saturday 11th May 18:14

DeanoRR

Original Poster:

140 posts

196 months

Saturday 11th May 2013
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Cheers jontysafe, well after the TVR I quite fancy a screaming bike engine, but having said that, I would certainly consider a cossie engined car if it was the right car. Anyone know how well these toys...I mean cars keep their value, also, do most of you do your own maintenance and servicing.Whos the best insurance company to deal with, anyone include track day cover

Furyblade_Lee

4,114 posts

245 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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Most of these cars are sub £10k used, and if you pay a fair price depreciation should be nil, full stop. Each marque seems to have a bottom limit, apart obviously from shagged ones!

DeanoRR

Original Poster:

140 posts

196 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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Any insurance company's you can recommend for either cossie powered or bike engined

Jwhatley

3 posts

211 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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Im in hampshire and have a Mk indy R, slightly more than your normal BEC, being a Holeshot racing busa turbo.

Your welcome to come and have a look at it if thats what your looking for...


robcollingridge

633 posts

304 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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I built my Fisher Fury R1 over 6 years ago now. It's used 95% as a road car. 450Kg of pure fun and involvement :-) I can't find anything better to replace it but, looking to build something bespoke, lighter and with a 14,000rpm limiter next.

Rob

DeanoRR

Original Poster:

140 posts

196 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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Anyone using Adrian Flux for insuring bike engined car, any experiences

DeanoRR

Original Poster:

140 posts

196 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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Looking forward to seeing some if your cars up close and finding out more about them. I've been doing my homework on parts and insurance. Will be keeping my Rangerover for the comfort and also safety with little ones onboard, and will be selling my MGF vvc 1999 (no hairdresser jokes please, I needed to get my topless kicks somehow), and also my Canam Renegade 800X 4x4 road legal quadbike. Looking forward to a trip to Spa if I can find a suitable car.

DeanoRR

Original Poster:

140 posts

196 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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Can anyone recommend a decent insurance company who insure bike engined cars (MK Indy/Worx etc), I've been told to try Adrian Flux.

mr_fibuli

1,109 posts

216 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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I think I'm with Adrian Flux for my Megablade - I'm paying about £150 for 1500 miles including commuting. Can't really comment on their service as I haven't crashed it wink

I've had mine 4 years now, and have been doing about 1000 miles per year. I live on the doorstep of North Wales, so usually just go for a 70 mile blast on rare sunny days. I only tax it for 6 months in summer - £76 this year I think. I don't think it has really depreciated since I bought it either, so the relative lack of use doesn't bother me too much, as it costs peanuts to run.

It is the worst car ever for town, traffic and motorways, thanks to the low gearing, stubborn clunky gearbox and drivetrain, but on a twisty b-road it is completely in its element, and everything flows perfectly.

I've never had a problem with "lack of torque" that you often hear about BECs. OK, there is nothing below 4000 rpm, but the car isn't keen on cruising below that anyway. On the other hand you have a wide usable power band between 6000 and 12000 revs, which means if you are feeling lazy you can just leave it in fourth and still enjoy a twisty road.

Bikers I've taken for a spin have called it "brutal" because you can snap the throttle wide open in low gears without falling off the back, and also the lower gearing means you can make much more use of full revs through the whole gearbox, without going to prison.