Nearly half price carbon wheels from carbonzone.
Discussion
Evening,
A friend has highlighted a deal on ebay. Carbonzone have their wheels at cost price to celebrate their anniversary.
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/carbonzone/category206973...
I am sure some of you will turn your nose up at any cheap Chinese replica products without any experience of them. But I'm genuinely looking for PH'ers who may have experience with these wheels etc. Whilst I'd like to go sink £1000 on a nice branded product, I can' justify it at the moment and wondered whether these would be worth a shout.
You can get a pair of 50mm clinchers with hubs and skewers for £220 delivered. 60mm for £235 and 88mm for 260mm.
Cheers.
A friend has highlighted a deal on ebay. Carbonzone have their wheels at cost price to celebrate their anniversary.
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/carbonzone/category206973...
I am sure some of you will turn your nose up at any cheap Chinese replica products without any experience of them. But I'm genuinely looking for PH'ers who may have experience with these wheels etc. Whilst I'd like to go sink £1000 on a nice branded product, I can' justify it at the moment and wondered whether these would be worth a shout.
You can get a pair of 50mm clinchers with hubs and skewers for £220 delivered. 60mm for £235 and 88mm for 260mm.
Cheers.
anonymous said:
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Fair enough, but if they didn't attempt to speak English and put everything in mandarin I'd have even less of a clue. (Don't get me wrong things like this drive me wild, but I understand I'm dealing with a cheap chinese seller here so expect the odd minor detail.)
Do you have any experience with the product?
There are a few huge (50+ pages) threads on Chinese carbon products, those who have bought them have had very few issues so read the threads before basing your a decision solely on grammar!
Incidentally, they are Novatec hubs and Gigantex rims, the exact same spec same used by a few UK wheelbuilders and a pair from them will cost you £700. If you get a pair and are concerned about build quality, run them for a week or so, then get a local shop just to give them a once over.
They are tubs not clinchers, otherwise I'd have a pair!
Incidentally, they are Novatec hubs and Gigantex rims, the exact same spec same used by a few UK wheelbuilders and a pair from them will cost you £700. If you get a pair and are concerned about build quality, run them for a week or so, then get a local shop just to give them a once over.
They are tubs not clinchers, otherwise I'd have a pair!
I ran a set of these in clincher guise for about 1k miles. They're very light and look nice enough but are too flexy (I am 96 kilos though!) and the bearings needed replacing within 1k miles of maily dry use.
I don't think they're quite up to the quality of the big brands, however many of these have problems of their own. If they're cheap and you're not too heavy I guess they're ok for race/tt or whatever. For general riding I think the longevity and braking are questionable.
I don't think they're quite up to the quality of the big brands, however many of these have problems of their own. If they're cheap and you're not too heavy I guess they're ok for race/tt or whatever. For general riding I think the longevity and braking are questionable.
pablo said:
There are a few huge (50+ pages) threads on Chinese carbon products, those who have bought them have had very few issues so read the threads before basing your a decision solely on grammar!
Incidentally, they are Novatec hubs and Gigantex rims, the exact same spec same used by a few UK wheelbuilders and a pair from them will cost you £700. If you get a pair and are concerned about build quality, run them for a week or so, then get a local shop just to give them a once over.
They are tubs not clinchers, otherwise I'd have a pair!
Yea I had a gander through a big thread elsewhere, however I value a PH'ers opinion more than some completely random chap from the web.Incidentally, they are Novatec hubs and Gigantex rims, the exact same spec same used by a few UK wheelbuilders and a pair from them will cost you £700. If you get a pair and are concerned about build quality, run them for a week or so, then get a local shop just to give them a once over.
They are tubs not clinchers, otherwise I'd have a pair!
I have an urge to buy some, however thinking harder its purely going to be for the aesthetics (I think they look cool!)
I don't plan to race or anything this season so I think I'd be better off buying a half decent set of Alu wheels I could use on a daily basis.
Cheers anyway.
duff said:
I ran a set of these in clincher guise for about 1k miles. They're very light and look nice enough but are too flexy (I am 96 kilos though!) and the bearings needed replacing within 1k miles of maily dry use.
I don't think they're quite up to the quality of the big brands, however many of these have problems of their own. If they're cheap and you're not too heavy I guess they're ok for race/tt or whatever. For general riding I think the longevity and braking are questionable.
I'm lighter than you but not so light at 86kg, plus will want to use regularly. I may give a miss this time, thanks for your input.I don't think they're quite up to the quality of the big brands, however many of these have problems of their own. If they're cheap and you're not too heavy I guess they're ok for race/tt or whatever. For general riding I think the longevity and braking are questionable.
Go for it, just get the build checked by a wheel builder shouldn't cost too much.
I got my wheels direct from china from a company called Farsports (seemed to have the best rep on the web in various forums) and they have been excellent and have used them in all conditions and also raced on them and no issues at all apart from the rear is a little flexy on a sprint but that's purely down to the hubs I choose, those novatecs will be fine.
I got my wheels direct from china from a company called Farsports (seemed to have the best rep on the web in various forums) and they have been excellent and have used them in all conditions and also raced on them and no issues at all apart from the rear is a little flexy on a sprint but that's purely down to the hubs I choose, those novatecs will be fine.
TKF said:
anonymous said:
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A couple of weeks ago you didn't even know you had cyclocross wheels! And yet you offer an opinion on carbonzone based upon nothing. No experience of the product either directly or indirectly.Just a misinformed opinion based upon the fact they are foreign.
t ebay ads, esp from a fraud/scam perspective.Having read up on the Chinese carbon wheel debate, its too much of a minefield for me, I'd prefer a decent set of UK built wheels, but that's my personal opinion.
Also I would be a bit embarrassed to buy a set cheap on EBay and then take them to a local wheel builder and say "Here mate, got these cheap can you make sure they are good" when it would have been better to buy a descent set from them in the first place
As somebody said above, there are threads that have been going for year about these wheels, and James above races on a set and is a better rider than most, I think to totally write them off because the english isn't spot on is ridiculous.
The whole mentality that something simply cannot be as good because its cheap is what keeps places like De Rosa in business flogging their pricey frames that Ribble do for a quarter of the price (many other brands do the same I'm sure, but that springs to mind). Sometimes snobbery over products is probably a good way to think, but when it comes to things like this that many many people have used with good effect, I think its totally silly to write them off for reasons such as listed above.
"a decent set of UK built wheels" LOL they're the same wheels and the same hubs, just that Wheelsmith bangs on another £400 for the sake of thinking anything straight from china must be st.
The whole mentality that something simply cannot be as good because its cheap is what keeps places like De Rosa in business flogging their pricey frames that Ribble do for a quarter of the price (many other brands do the same I'm sure, but that springs to mind). Sometimes snobbery over products is probably a good way to think, but when it comes to things like this that many many people have used with good effect, I think its totally silly to write them off for reasons such as listed above.
"a decent set of UK built wheels" LOL they're the same wheels and the same hubs, just that Wheelsmith bangs on another £400 for the sake of thinking anything straight from china must be s
t. Edited by okgo on Monday 13th May 09:24
okgo said:
As somebody said above, there are threads that have been going for year about these wheels, and James above races on a set and is a better rider than most, I think to totally write them off because the english isn't spot on is ridiculous.
The whole mentality that something simply cannot be as good because its cheap is what keeps places like De Rosa in business flogging their pricey frames that Ribble do for a quarter of the price (many other brands do the same I'm sure, but that springs to mind). Sometimes snobbery over products is probably a good way to think, but when it comes to things like this that many many people have used with good effect, I think its totally silly to write them off for reasons such as listed above.
"a decent set of UK built wheels" LOL they're the same wheels and the same hubs, just that Wheelsmith bangs on another £400 for the sake of thinking anything straight from china must be st.
I agree, whilst the grammar is annoying (surely they must have UK contacts who could help out) - it really does come with the territory, so to write them off because of that is ignorant. The whole mentality that something simply cannot be as good because its cheap is what keeps places like De Rosa in business flogging their pricey frames that Ribble do for a quarter of the price (many other brands do the same I'm sure, but that springs to mind). Sometimes snobbery over products is probably a good way to think, but when it comes to things like this that many many people have used with good effect, I think its totally silly to write them off for reasons such as listed above.
"a decent set of UK built wheels" LOL they're the same wheels and the same hubs, just that Wheelsmith bangs on another £400 for the sake of thinking anything straight from china must be s
t. Edited by okgo on Monday 13th May 09:24
I have read further about the products on other forums and its completely split, half of the comments are from keyboard warriors who have never used the product but still say they are s
t. The other half have actually used them and they say they are half decent for the money.As for your comment on UK built wheels - its sad to admit but im sure you are correct for the majority of cases. Whilst its nice to think its all hand crafted out the back, its just the same bits put together in the UK.
This time I have decided against purchasing as my man maths has not persuaded the OH (and me TBH) - I don't really need them, its purely just wanting them as I like the look. My money will be better spent elsewhere.
brianthemagical said:
Have a search on the net and form your own opinion.
I'm contemplating a second set of shallow, light climbing wheels for a Pyrenees trip. You may have given me the answer. Thanks!
Just noticed they're only tubs on offer. Oh well.
Have a look at "stan's no tubes" - a mate got a set for a very good price and they were less than 1300g for the pair IIRC. No idea what the reviews say about them but at that weight, they'd be a much better climbing wheel.I'm contemplating a second set of shallow, light climbing wheels for a Pyrenees trip. You may have given me the answer. Thanks!
Just noticed they're only tubs on offer. Oh well.
These sound like a bargain for £300 inc. tubs though!
Yeh, that is the beauty of the wheel builders here, they will be using the same product (as I'm sure gigantex rims are NOT built in the UK) but because it comes from a UK source people are seemingly happy to pay double for it - that's fine, many brands trade off their English credentials even though the product is the same as can be had elsewhere for a fraction of the cost, but to rubbish the same product because its straight from the source isn't right.
After pinch flatting in a race yesterday I am seriously considering some tubs, and I may well get a set of these to see what they're like, if I don't like them then the sets I've seen go up for sale on Bikeradar have gone pretty quickly, after-all, as has been said, for £200-300 can you really go that wrong?
After pinch flatting in a race yesterday I am seriously considering some tubs, and I may well get a set of these to see what they're like, if I don't like them then the sets I've seen go up for sale on Bikeradar have gone pretty quickly, after-all, as has been said, for £200-300 can you really go that wrong?
You also get nice e-mails like this ordering direct from China:
Hi James,
Good morning,have a coffee? I hope you have a nice weekend with your family.
The package have been shipped out yesterday.
Track Number-------EE728087712CN
Tracking Web------- www.ems.com.cn
It takes about 5-7days to your home. Please don't worry.
You can learn the status on the web during any where and time.
Thanks&Best Regards,
Smart
Hi James,
Good morning,have a coffee? I hope you have a nice weekend with your family.
The package have been shipped out yesterday.
Track Number-------EE728087712CN
Tracking Web------- www.ems.com.cn
It takes about 5-7days to your home. Please don't worry.
You can learn the status on the web during any where and time.
Thanks&Best Regards,
Smart
fromage said:
You also get nice e-mails like this ordering direct from China:
Hi James,
Good morning,have a coffee? I hope you have a nice weekend with your family.
The package have been shipped out yesterday.
Track Number-------EE728087712CN
Tracking Web------- www.ems.com.cn
It takes about 5-7days to your home. Please don't worry.
You can learn the status on the web during any where and time.
Thanks&Best Regards,
Smart
Hi James,
Good morning,have a coffee? I hope you have a nice weekend with your family.
The package have been shipped out yesterday.
Track Number-------EE728087712CN
Tracking Web------- www.ems.com.cn
It takes about 5-7days to your home. Please don't worry.
You can learn the status on the web during any where and time.
Thanks&Best Regards,
Smart
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