Snetterton Novice Day - May 19
Snetterton Novice Day - May 19
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krunchkin

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164 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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Anyone else going? I am a total track noob. Taking my s2000 for its first track spin.Got it set with Stoptech semi-race brakes and Motul Brake OIl. Anyone want to give me some advice? Any tips, tricks, noob things not to do etc appreciated... Any specific s2000 things to think about also appreciated

krunchkin

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2,209 posts

164 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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I know the one about not putting on the handbrake after a run already I should add!

jonnyleroux

1,511 posts

283 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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krunchkin said:
Anyone else going? I am a total track noob. Taking my s2000 for its first track spin.Got it set with Stoptech semi-race brakes and Motul Brake OIl. Anyone want to give me some advice? Any tips, tricks, noob things not to do etc appreciated... Any specific s2000 things to think about also appreciated
Rear brakes are a known weak point on the S2K's. Make sure you have plenty of pad material left, and maybe even carry a spare set of pads around in the boot just in case - often the inner pad will wear faster and you can't always see that from a quick glance.

Do a *very* good cool down lap on your way back into the pits to dissipate as much heat as possible (complete lap of the track without touching the brake pedal)

Observation is key. Look a long way ahead and check for bad driving well before you're likely to get caught up in it. Use your mirrors a *lot* more than you would on the road, 2 or 3 times on each straight and before and after every corner.

Finally, most importantly, above all else, GET SOME TUITION! A decent instructor will spot anything you're doing wrong within a couple of laps and it could potentially save you a massive bill. They will generally get you going a lot quicker as well, although that's less important for your first track day than keeping it on the black stuff IMO.

HTH

Jonny
BaT

krunchkin

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164 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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top advice - thanks. Yes, keen not to shove it in the barriers above and beyond anything else!

peatmoor

196 posts

168 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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I'm going too. Total newbie myself, although I have done 15 mins in a MSV car at Brands last summer. Taking the 350Z.

Nervous about the weather and also about cooking my brakes so I'll def be doing a cooldown lap.

Come say hi, looks like I'll be on my jack jones as my co-pilot has bailed!

krunchkin

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Tuesday 14th May 2013
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Oh good news - OK mate well I am in red 56 plate s2000 - . Come and say Hi. I'm bringing my old man along. Looks like the weather is going to be bks frown

peatmoor

196 posts

168 months

Wednesday 15th May 2013
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Will do.

I've been thinking of filming my laps using my iPhone. Do you think MSV will be strict about using suction holders attached to the windscreen? I'm guessing yes!

krunchkin

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Wednesday 15th May 2013
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Yes they probably will. If you want to film in car footage I would strongly suggest getting a GoPro with a clamp.

peatmoor

196 posts

168 months

Wednesday 15th May 2013
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Weathers looking up! What the thinking on tyre pressures? Any ideas?

krunchkin

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164 months

Thursday 16th May 2013
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Good point - Can anyone assist us? I'm guessing slightly higher than for road use>? My RE050s are normally 32 for the road, but I think I might pump them to 36 or so. Any track masters able to advise?

peatmoor

196 posts

168 months

Thursday 16th May 2013
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Found these threads on PH

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=50...

Something from bikerbanter which I think the tips on tyres are probably sound for cars. I.E beginners start at road PSI then as you warm them up drop the PSI

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=70...

One from the net.

www.torquecars.com/articles/track-day-driving.php

Looks like the theme is to start on normal pressures and then drop them down as they warm up. I reckon seeing as we are only out for 15 mins per hour then we probably just need to keep an eye on them.

peatmoor

196 posts

168 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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So how'd you get on? I saw a red S2000 doing double sessions I assume that was yours but I didn't manage to get over to you.

Good day? How did your brakes fair?

krunchkin

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Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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I had an absolute blast. It was a fking briliiant day! What a buzz! The grip on my car is just astonishing. Brakes held up really well, no fade. Theyy were brand new Stoptech pads - reckon I must have smoked half the pads during the day. I thought the whole day was really well organised and thoroughly enjoyable and felt pretty safe out there. Managed to smoke a few Porsches after getting the corners into the straights right, and blasted past plenty of hot hatches (and that crappy Triumph that was holding everyone up). That blue M5 was a fking beast though wasn't it? And the yellow TVR didnt hang about either! I'm hooked now!

smile

krunchkin

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Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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interesting to see how much more grunt the M5 had compared to the 2 Z4Ms that were out. They looked very sluggish I thought.

peatmoor

196 posts

168 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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Yeah I agree, it was very well organised and I think in general we had some decent people on track most being polite and easy going on track and in the paddock.

Do you mean the bright blue BMW? I thought that was an M3. He wasn't in my session but I agree I think he was the fastest thing there. The carrera's were being driven quite gingerly.

I followed the yellow Tuscan in my first session and he was SLOW through the corners but blistering on the straights. He gave way in the end but in a later session he had really improved so stayed ahead of my lowly 350Z.

Went home with 2 sessions to go though as my brakes were stock with some wear already so erred on the side of caution on that front. Definitely going again. I'm thinking I might try Bedford open pit lane later in the year.

Your S2000 looked good on track, good vehicle for it!

I surprised no-one else is on here from that day - bunch of PHers surely!

krunchkin

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Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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agree the Porsches were cautious - very early braking into the corners and very easy to get past as they were coming out of them so slowly - one of them still stuck it on the grass towards the end though. I can't wait for my next one. Wondering whether to go novice session again or go for a full on track day. Do you think they are much riskier? I liked the fact I felt pretty secure that my lovely car wasn't going to get T-boned by some nobend - meant I could really enjoy it and relax.

krunchkin

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Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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Id strongly recommend having a look at some Semi-Race pads and discs if you're going to do it again. My guy at TGM Racing who services my car recommended them - good enough to work great on the road at low temps but will still give good performance and not disintegrate when you're hammeriing them. Mine weren't really that much more expensive than stock OEM pads either.

peatmoor

196 posts

168 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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I agree it was a very relaxed event. I get the feeling it wasn't full so I'd expect more pressure on fuller days. Also an open pit lane event will be a different experience joining traffic on warmer tyres than you etc.
I see MSV appear to have started "roadcar" open pitlane days which means nothing that resembles a race-car can enter. I imagine that is the next step up from the novice day.

Keep having a look at MX-5s on the net as a potential track-car investment.

krunchkin

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Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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s2000 mate. Ignore PH wisdom on MX5s. They might handle nice but they dont give you 9000rpm to cane the st out of the straight bits.

krunchkin

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Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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it was funny with my Dad. He, naturally, would be inclined to knock it up a gear at about 6000rpm. On each straight I was in the passenger seat screaming "KEEP GOING KEEP GOING!" until it hit 9000 smile