Digital Video at the 'Ring

Digital Video at the 'Ring

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tstruth

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1 posts

240 months

Tuesday 5th October 2004
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As a Nordschleife regular you will know that taking footage of laps of not allowed.

I have seen several cars with very small remote video lenses that presumably plug into a normal DV camera.

Does anyone know where I can get hold of this type of gadget?

Cheers

daydreamer

1,409 posts

258 months

Tuesday 5th October 2004
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www.goldstar-racing.com/goldstarracecam.htm

Obviously you wouldn't be wanting to use this at the Ring though

davyboy

746 posts

256 months

Tuesday 5th October 2004
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oooh very naughty.

domster

8,431 posts

271 months

Tuesday 5th October 2004
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Remember that disseminated video of n'ring crashes or illegal/dangerous riding /driving is ammunition for those who may want to close it.

If any illegal footage does get taken, please do not allow it to be posted anywhere etc.

It should also be noted that people who video their laps tend to treat traffic differently and are more inclined to showboat at Brunnchen/Plflanzgarten - this isn't always good driving practice Please be careful - as much as for others as yourself - if you do attach a bullet cam.

bad_roo

5,187 posts

238 months

Tuesday 5th October 2004
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I was out at the Ring last month and our crew had a filming permit. We also had a number of cars with us, so the cameras were being moved from car to car and nobody had informed the guys on the gate. That said, no matter where we sited the bulletcam, one of the guys spotted it every time and made sure our papers were in order.

Some of the places we had the cam were pretty sly - such as barely protruding down near the front towing eye - and the guy spotted it every time. If you are thinking of sneaking a cam through, watch out for Dead Eye Dick on the barrier!

>> Edited by bad_roo on Tuesday 5th October 14:18

55jnj

555 posts

285 months

Tuesday 5th October 2004
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domster said:
Remember that disseminated video of n'ring crashes or illegal/dangerous riding /driving is ammunition for those who may want to close it.

If any illegal footage does get taken, please do not allow it to be posted anywhere etc.


Good point, well made.

kedelbach

145 posts

237 months

Monday 15th November 2004
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55jnj said:

[quote=domster]Remember that disseminated video of n'ring crashes or illegal/dangerous riding /driving is ammunition for those who may want to close it.

If any illegal footage does get taken, please do not allow it to be posted anywhere etc.



Thats my interpretation of the video ban also, and to keep such footage out of the courtroom should 2 vehicles be involved in a crash.

On the other hand, if no dodgy driving goes on, or shunts captured, I have no qualms about sharing Ring Videos

[url]www.smart-roadster-club.de/video/srlap.mpeg[/url]



cheers

Kurt
www.nurburgring.org.uk/who/details.php?u=167

>> Edited by kedelbach on Thursday 18th November 15:44

55jnj

555 posts

285 months

Wednesday 17th November 2004
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Returned from a couple of days at the 'Ring last Wednesday. There was no restriction on filming at all although these were not public days.

destexhe

17 posts

279 months

Thursday 18th November 2004
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You'll find this site

www.rfconcepts.co.uk/helmet_cameras.htm

a lot cheaper the the one mentioned previously. Bought one set there and working great at just over 100 quid for mine, can't complain.

shadytree

8,291 posts

250 months

Thursday 18th November 2004
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destexhe said:
You'll find this site

www.rfconcepts.co.uk/helmet_cameras.htm

a lot cheaper the the one mentioned previously. Bought one set there and working great at just over 100 quid for mine, can't complain.


ditto

kedelbach

145 posts

237 months

Thursday 18th November 2004
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interesting - do you have any videos online for a sample?
How is the sound from the remote mic?
What kind of camcorder are you using?

I rigged up my small, but heavy Canon ZR60 to the side of a cheap helmet. Made great vids at the kart track, but my neck was REALLY sore the next day!

Kurt


destexhe said:
You'll find this site

<a href="http://www.rfconcepts.co.uk/helmet_cameras.htm">www.rfconcepts.co.uk/helmet_cameras.htm</a>

a lot cheaper the the one mentioned previously. Bought one set there and working great at just over 100 quid for mine, can't complain.



>> Edited by kedelbach on Thursday 18th November 15:45

destexhe

17 posts

279 months

Friday 19th November 2004
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Hi Kurt,

I haven't got any footage online I'm affraid but quality is very good with the Hi Res bullet cam and totally acceptable too with the lower res version.

I use a Sony PC100 which is old and heavy compared to modern stuff but it does the job very well then I archieve everything on DVD.

As for sound, the provided mic is mono so I use a y shape splitter to connect it to both L and R signal in the camcorer to get facked stereo rather then the uneven stereo you get otherwise. I also usually leave the mic in the back area of the car to get on board sound and still get road noise as well as exhaust sound. Didn't try to leave it outside but I guess that will cause a lot of wind noise!

I hope this helps.

Greg

woof

8,456 posts

278 months

Friday 19th November 2004
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Hi

Caterham have just launched their own RaceCam - looks pretty good from what I can see - not sure how it compares on price - but it's broadcast quality !

www.caterham.co.uk/onlinestores/index.htm

Pimpride

2 posts

234 months

Monday 22nd November 2004
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RF Concept is OK if you are only going to occasionally use it. It isn't really designed for hard-core use and will not hold up long term (lots of personal experience). That is what you get with all off-the-shelf security products being sold as "action cameras."

If you want to do more then check out

[url] www.XtremeRecall.com [/url].

They design for Pro Racers and Broadcasters and make the most flexible vehicle mount. Their In-car video systems are also easily convertible to full Helmet Cam systems - or vice versa.

Personally, I'd spend a little more and get a higher quality system that is actually designed for the job and can do double duty on a Mountain Bike or Snowboard. Best thing is they really aren't all that much more expensive.

Cheers.

7 builder

4 posts

238 months

Wednesday 24th November 2004
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You could also check out www.f1camera.com

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 28th November 2004
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remember for most bullet cams you will need an 'analogue in' camcorder - most modern ones dont have this anymore

joust

14,622 posts

260 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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francisb said:
remember for most bullet cams you will need an 'analogue in' camcorder - most modern ones dont have this anymore


Although Most cams I've seen (at least the Sony ones) still have a S-Video in on a micro connector which will take analogue quite happily or a single multi pole jack that does A/V in and out.

e.g.

You can see the A/V In/Out covered by the rubber connector on the right hand side.

J

>> Edited by joust on Monday 29th November 13:13

joust

14,622 posts

260 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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From the "PH'er at the Ring" thread (www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=138332&f=18&h=0) looks like this person wasn't that worried about it...



J

Phil S

730 posts

239 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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You would be suprised at the number of people filming in the pictures I have taken, it's probably 1 in 5 cars using a hand-held. One person I know made up a bracket and attached a cam-corder to the rear headrest. They never spotted it at the gate!