sunrise sunset advice

[egor110]

I'm off down Cornwall tomorrow so planning on catching a filming a few sunrise, sunsets at kynance cove.

I was planning on shooting f11ish iso 100, the tides are going to be low so don't think I'm going to have much opportunity too shoot low shutter speed and get that milky water look, so would you shoot from down on the beach in the cove or stay up on the cliff?

Lastly am I right in thinking at sunset I'll get better colours if there's a bit of cloud about rather than a perfectly clear blue sky?

Thanks for your time.

[GetCarter]

Yep... clouds in the foreground, clear at the horizon for the best sunsets. Also, IMHO many come about 10 - 30 mins after the sun has set. Most togs seem to leave as soon as the sun has set.

i.e.

[egor110]

Is there any point taking my 50-300 zoom or just take my 18-55?

[GetCarter]

With the tele you can do this sorta thing (not often conditions allow mind) - so yes:

[GetCarter]

I often chuck a grad grey filter (at the dark end) in front of the lens to darken the sun... if you have one.

[egor110]

Do sunrises work the same? more cloud more colour?

Thanks for the help.

[GetCarter]

egor110 said:

Do sunrises work the same? more cloud more colour?

Thanks for the help.

Right amount of cloud = fine. Obviously, too much cloud = go back to bed.

[Geordie MGmike]

Thought I'd throw a couple up taken a few years back on the west coast of Scotland (GetCarter and Dibbly will know where it is). And Yes these are straight off the camera with no PP

tip: use the WB to enhance the reds




Sky could use some work on the second one and the horizon needs straightening on the first.

[nessiemac]

Geordie MGmike said:

Thought I'd throw a couple up taken a few years back on the west coast of Scotland (GetCarter and Dibbly will know where it is). And Yes these are straight off the camera with no PP

tip: use the WB to enhance the reds




Sky could use some work on the second one and the horizon needs straightening on the first.

Ailsa Craig with Arran behind? Ayrshire born and bred me! Lovely photos.

[Geordie MGmike]

nessiemac said:

Ailsa Craig with Arran behind? Ayrshire born and bred me! Lovely photos.

Spot on. Taken from the back door of Turnberry golf course hotel!
Thanks for the nice comment.

[kit80]

I find the key to sunsets as I work in manual is to purposely under expose, especially if you are going for a silhouette.

[james_tigerwoods]

Most attempts I make of these never work - but sometimes, only sometimes, it does:





I just wish I knew what I did to make it work this time as opposed to any other time when it didn't.

[RobDickinson]

Grad filters, tripod and shoot raw, make sure you shoot on sunlight white balance rather than auto.

IMO get close to the action either waves with a wide angle or the sun with a long lens

[Simpo Two]

If you shoot RAW white balance is immaterial, you can make it up afterwards.

I don't do landscapes but it seems to me that it still helps to start off with something good or at least promising to start with, rather than try to flog a dead horse in processing.

[RobDickinson]

Simpo Two said:

If you shoot RAW white balance is immaterial, you can make it up afterwards.

I don't do landscapes but it seems to me that it still helps to start off with something good or at least promising to start with, rather than try to flog a dead horse in processing.

Wb affects the histogram and image review. And a lot of people forget to adjust it later, best to make an effort at the time.

[Mojocvh]

I was driving to work today, dawn and a slight shower of rain was falling...

cue short rock intro...

and along the A90 towards perth between glencarse and kingfans the refraction point [start or finish] of a rainbow was keeping pace with me as it "ran" along the tree lined rise of the hill. Up and down over the uneven jumbled canopy of the trees at their nearest point to the road.

Never seen anything like that before.



Mo.

carry on.

[Simpo Two]

RobDickinson said:

Wb affects the histogram and image review. And a lot of people forget to adjust it later, best to make an effort at the time.

Well I suppose at least landscape togs have plenty of time to twiddle, but I'd give priority to the scene, composition and lighting thereof. And if someone 'forgets' to look at WB afterwards, then they're not likely very to bother with it on the spot IMHO.

[james_tigerwoods]

Mojocvh said:

I was driving to work today, dawn and a slight shower of rain was falling...

cue short rock intro...

and along the A90 towards perth between glencarse and kingfans the refraction point [start or finish] of a rainbow was keeping pace with me as it "ran" along the tree lined rise of the hill. Up and down over the uneven jumbled canopy of the trees at their nearest point to the road.

Never seen anything like that before.



Mo.

carry on.

The best photos are those that you didn't take