Grab A "Classic" Now
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Older cars that we love to hate, Allegros, Marinas and Vivas, are heavily on the way out. The Telegraph has published a list of those getting close to the end.
The market says there must be a yawning gap between Classic prices and 'just some old crap' prices, must be worth a punt if you have some garage space free.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/10056212/...
I wish I'd hung onto my early Mk.1 Panda now, given free from a bloke in the Pub and sold for £50 to a nipper at work. Will work a bit harder on my Uno from now on.
The market says there must be a yawning gap between Classic prices and 'just some old crap' prices, must be worth a punt if you have some garage space free.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/10056212/...
I wish I'd hung onto my early Mk.1 Panda now, given free from a bloke in the Pub and sold for £50 to a nipper at work. Will work a bit harder on my Uno from now on.
Believe me, Allegros and Marinas were horrible. The Allegro was diabolical and the Marina was even worse - you couldn't even sit straight in the damned things. You are hearing someone who actually owned and/or drove them.
I'm all for hanging on to something unusual, so other people can have their memories jogged, but don't believe everything you are told these days. According to classic car journalists everything that was carp years ago is now quaint and acceptable or has had its well-documented faults sorted. If only.
I'm all for hanging on to something unusual, so other people can have their memories jogged, but don't believe everything you are told these days. According to classic car journalists everything that was carp years ago is now quaint and acceptable or has had its well-documented faults sorted. If only.

The only Marina I ever drove was a parts van, when I worked for Kennings.
The bloody thing had a digital clutch, on or off no inbetween. The sodding thing either stalled or spun the wheels every time.
As for allaggros, my dad had one. First ever engine that I rebuilt (14 YO). Painted the block red, and my dad painted the exhaust manifold with the same paint (even though I told him not to). The smoke on first run was amazing.
The bloody thing had a digital clutch, on or off no inbetween. The sodding thing either stalled or spun the wheels every time.
As for allaggros, my dad had one. First ever engine that I rebuilt (14 YO). Painted the block red, and my dad painted the exhaust manifold with the same paint (even though I told him not to). The smoke on first run was amazing.
mikey77 said:
Believe me, Allegros and Marinas were horrible. The Allegro was diabolical and the Marina was even worse - you couldn't even sit straight in the damned things. You are hearing someone who actually owned and/or drove them.
I'm all for hanging on to something unusual, so other people can have their memories jogged, but don't believe everything you are told these days. According to classic car journalists everything that was crap years ago is now quaint and acceptable or has had its well-documented faults sorted. If only.
Couldn't agree more.I'm all for hanging on to something unusual, so other people can have their memories jogged, but don't believe everything you are told these days. According to classic car journalists everything that was crap years ago is now quaint and acceptable or has had its well-documented faults sorted. If only.

They were a piles of sh*te when new and now they're just old piles of sh*te

LordBretSinclair said:
mikey77 said:
Believe me, Allegros and Marinas were horrible. The Allegro was diabolical and the Marina was even worse - you couldn't even sit straight in the damned things. You are hearing someone who actually owned and/or drove them.
I'm all for hanging on to something unusual, so other people can have their memories jogged, but don't believe everything you are told these days. According to classic car journalists everything that was crap years ago is now quaint and acceptable or has had its well-documented faults sorted. If only.
Couldn't agree more.I'm all for hanging on to something unusual, so other people can have their memories jogged, but don't believe everything you are told these days. According to classic car journalists everything that was crap years ago is now quaint and acceptable or has had its well-documented faults sorted. If only.

They were a piles of sh*te when new and now they're just old piles of sh*te

I would love to know where they get the numbers from as the best has got to be the Landrover as something like 60-70% of all landrovers made are still in use (loads used in places other than on the road)
As for others on the list of "good uns" a couple of them were pretty dire when new and will not have improved after 30-40-50 years !
Time will show as it does with all mechanical things the stuff that was poor in its day will not be collected and get rare ,and rare will equal value to some extent in the future.
As for others on the list of "good uns" a couple of them were pretty dire when new and will not have improved after 30-40-50 years !
Time will show as it does with all mechanical things the stuff that was poor in its day will not be collected and get rare ,and rare will equal value to some extent in the future.
grumpy52 said:
I would love to know where they get the numbers from as the best has got to be the Landrover as something like 60-70% of all landrovers made are still in use (loads used in places other than on the road)
As for others on the list of "good uns" a couple of them were pretty dire when new and will not have improved after 30-40-50 years !
Time will show as it does with all mechanical things the stuff that was poor in its day will not be collected and get rare ,and rare will equal value to some extent in the future.
Triggers broom, I love old Landies but Landcruiser build quality they aint got.As for others on the list of "good uns" a couple of them were pretty dire when new and will not have improved after 30-40-50 years !
Time will show as it does with all mechanical things the stuff that was poor in its day will not be collected and get rare ,and rare will equal value to some extent in the future.
Marina - load of poo you all say, clutch judder, on off switch etc
You lot should lean to drive - I had a Marina and it was ok, only trouble I ever had was a gearstick that disconnected from the gearbox.
I've driven and thrashed and nursed all sorts of stuff over the years - there was a lot worse than the Marina.
60's Land Rovers
Peugeot 104
70's Transits
HA Viva van
early minis
newer minis
Spitfire now there was a car where the pedal off set would damage your spine...
s
te the lot of them
You lot should lean to drive - I had a Marina and it was ok, only trouble I ever had was a gearstick that disconnected from the gearbox.
I've driven and thrashed and nursed all sorts of stuff over the years - there was a lot worse than the Marina.
60's Land Rovers
Peugeot 104
70's Transits
HA Viva van
early minis
newer minis
Spitfire now there was a car where the pedal off set would damage your spine...
s
te the lot of themdroopsnoot said:
grumpy52 said:
I would love to know where they get the numbers from
Generally they come from the "How many left" website, which in turn is based on DVLA data, which is often not very accurate as you go back further through history. quiraing said:
How about the Chrysler / Talbot Alpine or Horizon or Solara?? Mk1 Vx Cavalier 1256? Rover SD1 2000? The Yugo? Dacia Duster (Renault 12 shape).
As stated, all pretty much crap cars, but there aren't many left. Will be worth a bob or two in a few years (except the Dacia, thousands of the buggers still going).Think how much Mini pick-ups and vans are going for now. Even 2CVs and R4s are doing well.
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