radiator cap
radiator cap
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sean737

Original Poster:

40 posts

261 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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Anybody know what 'donor' the radiator cap is from? Might save me some time opening thousands of boxes down at Halfrauds!

Did some rewiring the other day (try not to be rude about the fitter of my stereo ) and discovered straight away that the wiring diagram is a very rough guide!

paul d

35 posts

268 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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Had fun with my stereo, turns out the permanent live for the stereo loops through for the supply for the horn!
Can imagine my expletives when the horn packed up and i was trying to find the source.

shnozz

30,096 posts

295 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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i have a boxed one at home so will be able to post the exact code for it tonight. However, seem to recall I found the info either from searching PH archives or in the bible before I went to halfrauds. will see if an answer has been posted before tonight. If not, will post then...

WildfireS3

9,919 posts

276 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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It has been said that you need a long reach 15lb rad cap. I have been yet to find one of these elusive specimins. Only a long reach 10lb one.

shnozz

30,096 posts

295 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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really

dont remember using a long reach one. I bought mine off the shelf at halfwits and "think" it was 15lbs rating. Fellow PHer kindly sent me a bit of cut out bicycle inner tube as the second washer to use on the swirl tank. (oh no, which tank should the pressure cap be on argument ensuing)

WildfireS3

9,919 posts

276 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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shnozz said:
really

dont remember using a long reach one. I bought mine off the shelf at halfwits and "think" it was 15lbs rating. Fellow PHer kindly sent me a bit of cut out bicycle inner tube as the second washer to use on the swirl tank. (oh no, which tank should the pressure cap be on argument ensuing)


That's exactly what I did. It was probably the same PHer who sent me my washer. Actually I later modified the rad cap, by taking it apart. Seems to work fine now.

shnozz

30,096 posts

295 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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must say I never had any probs after replacing mine with the off the shelf one. Before that the spring had got tired and was probably working around 3 lbs Could hear the water bubbling away in the expansion tank after the ignition was switched off.

WildfireS3

9,919 posts

276 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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shnozz said:
Could hear the water bubbling away in the expansion tank after the ignition was switched off.


Oh, is this bad?

shnozz

30,096 posts

295 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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WildfireS3 said:

shnozz said:
Could hear the water bubbling away in the expansion tank after the ignition was switched off.



Oh, is this bad?


dont think it makes much difference, I assume it gets sucked back into the system, just that it started doing it when the cap got tired so I swapped it for a new one.

kentishs2

1,354 posts

263 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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So guys, tell me, where should the pressure cap be fitted - is it on the swirl pot or the expansion tank?

shnozz

30,096 posts

295 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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kentishs2 said:
So guys, tell me, where should the pressure cap be fitted - is it on the swirl pot or the expansion tank?



dont you start

sean737

Original Poster:

40 posts

261 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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Oops, what have I done!

For the record mine is set up to have the pressure cap on the swirl tank. The expansion tank is therefor unpressurised. If the pressure builds up sufficiently the steam will escape past the seal (held by cap spring pressure) and via a tube to the bottom of the expansion tank. The expansion tank is vented to atmosfere via a tube so that it overflows to the road. The idea is that if the steam enters the expansion tank the cool liquid in there condenses the steam. When the system cools and the pressure drops below atmosphereic the liquid is sucked back to the swirl tank via the same tube and through the one way valve in the pressure cap.

My cap is leaking excessively such that the steam is not condensing in the expansion tank and is going overboard. On cooling it runs out of liquid to suck back into the cooling tank and sucks air, hense low coolant level. I have tried cleaning the sealing faces but suspect that the spring is weak. I may try increasing the spring pressure somehow but this is a bit of a bodge. It is important to make sure that the replacement cap is of the correct rating 15psi and that it has the extra one way valve. This valve is the extra metal disk in the middle of the rubber seal. You can pull on it to see how it works. Only a cap designed for this unpressurised expansion tank system will have this valve.

This is how TVR intended the system to be and is how mine is but it can be modified to work differently ie pressurised expansion tank and hence to ongoing debates!

Hope this clears this all up and thanks to anybody who can identify the cap correctly for me.

PHEW!!

P.S. I know I cannot spell!

pies

13,116 posts

280 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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I think its a 601,but anm not certain

shnozz

30,096 posts

295 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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pies said:
I think its a 601,but anm not certain


that rings a bell actually

oldred

3,764 posts

262 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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shnozz said:

kentishs2 said:
So guys, tell me, where should the pressure cap be fitted - is it on the swirl pot or the expansion tank?




dont you start


Damn! Kentish beat me to it.

sean737

Original Poster:

40 posts

261 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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Went to Halfrauds with the origional cap and picked one out that is 15lbs and looks the same. Their code is HRC609. Not yet put it on the car yet to try it as it won't stop pissing it down! BTW I made that bit about the one way valve up. They all need it in order not to end up with a partial vacuum inside after a boil over!

Regards

kentishs2

1,354 posts

263 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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sean737 said:
Went to Halfrauds with the origional cap and picked one out that is 15lbs and looks the same. Their code is HRC609. Not yet put it on the car yet to try it as it won't stop pissing it down! BTW I made that bit about the one way valve up. They all need it in order not to end up with a partial vacuum inside after a boil over!

Regards


So, where would you fit that on the swirl or.....

oldred

3,764 posts

262 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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kentishs2 said:

sean737 said:
Went to Halfrauds with the origional cap and picked one out that is 15lbs and looks the same. Their code is HRC609. Not yet put it on the car yet to try it as it won't stop pissing it down! BTW I made that bit about the one way valve up. They all need it in order not to end up with a partial vacuum inside after a boil over!

Regards



So, where would you fit that on the swirl or.....


Bugr he did it again!

kentishs2

1,354 posts

263 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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Tripps

5,814 posts

296 months

Sunday 10th October 2004
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sean737 said:
Did some rewiring the other day (try not to be rude about the fitter of my stereo ) and discovered straight away that the wiring diagram is a very rough guide!
Can't say I'm the best auto-electrician, hence the crimps - I'd rather have soldered, but didn't have a gas soldering iron Hope all was OK?

Err wiring diagram yeah the one in the manual has a vague resenblance, but otherwise is a little useless!Did you find a live feed the ignition as I hoped to wire the stereo to one to save power while in the garage, but during my tests I found both power feeds were direct from battery