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Sixpot

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444 posts

263 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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We've got a few special occasions coming up next year and are seriously thinking about investing in a digital camera. Problem is I don't know which one to go for. The Old man has got a Sony Cyber Shot and is v pleased with it, however I am quite impressed with the Canon's. I've got the website thing sorted....they are so so cheap compared to retail outlets just can't decide which one to go for. Also need some advice on the Optical/Digital zoom malarky...which to look at etc.

This is the short list.

HP Photosmart R707
Canon IXUS 500
Sony Cyber Shot DSC T1
Sony Cyber Shot DSC P100

Has anyone had any experience of the above, or recommend any alternatives. All advice greatly accepted.

P.S. Compact, lightweight and robust order of the day

Bee_Jay

2,599 posts

268 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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www.steves-digicams.com - the best, most objective independent review site - this guy is amazingly anal.

Here is the only place you will get a fair and balanced opinion.

If you wanted a biased opinion - the Canon - outstanding !

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

274 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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Basicaly IGNORE digital zoom completly.

Its nothing you cant do much better yourself in photoshop or whatever later.

simpo two

90,497 posts

285 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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Sixpot said:
Also need some advice on the Optical/Digital zoom malarky...

Optical zoom is true zoom, but digital 'zoom' is simply cropping and reduces picture quality.
As for which one, they're all good: buy the one that best fits your needs and that you like the look of best!

SirPsycho

104 posts

255 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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RobDickinson said:
Basicaly IGNORE digital zoom completly.

Its nothing you cant do much better yourself in photoshop or whatever later.



Very true.

You may want to have a look at the Konica cameras which are slightly higher spec than the Canons. They are similar in size & sexiness, and slightly cheaper to buy.

Good luck

SP

size13

2,032 posts

277 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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Depending on budget/size this thread might be of interest

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=128363&f=109&h=0

Iceman82

1,311 posts

256 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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I have the T1 and it is not only a stunning looking camera but with its 5 megapixels it really is the business. Highly recommend it!

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

274 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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Realy depends on what you want out of the camera - what are you going to ise it for mainly, holiday snaps, landscape?

sixpot

Original Poster:

444 posts

263 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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RobDickinson said:
Realy depends on what you want out of the camera - what are you going to ise it for mainly, holiday snaps, landscape?


Bit of everything really.......Work use, holidays, weddings, etc etc General all purpose camera required

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

274 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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sixpot said:

RobDickinson said:
Realy depends on what you want out of the camera - what are you going to ise it for mainly, holiday snaps, landscape?



Bit of everything really.......Work use, holidays, weddings, etc etc General all purpose camera required


Ok - do you want some sort of manual control (of apature/shutter speed/focus) or happy with auto everything all the time?

Are you going to print out pics, if so how big would you want - or are you going to post process or crop on PC (relates to mp/resolution)

simpo two

90,497 posts

285 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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RobDickinson said:
Ok - do you want some sort of manual control (of apature/shutter speed/focus) or happy with auto everything all the time?

Are you going to print out pics, if so how big would you want - or are you going to post process or crop on PC (relates to mp/resolution)

I don't think he's looking for 'seat of the pants' stuff. One thing that might be handy is a big zoom.

Re printing, 4Mp is fine for A4 prints - and how many people make A3 prints anyway? I think resolution is now so high that it's not really an issue.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

274 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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I'd say stear clear of the PC brand stuff and go with a camera make but steves gives the HP a good review.

sixpot

Original Poster:

444 posts

263 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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RobDickinson said:

sixpot said:


RobDickinson said:
Realy depends on what you want out of the camera - what are you going to ise it for mainly, holiday snaps, landscape?




Bit of everything really.......Work use, holidays, weddings, etc etc General all purpose camera required



Ok - do you want some sort of manual control (of apature/shutter speed/focus) or happy with auto everything all the time?

Are you going to print out pics, if so how big would you want - or are you going to post process or crop on PC (relates to mp/resolution)


Before I answer....any chance of explaining the manual shutter thing a little more?

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

274 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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sixpot said:
Before I answer....any chance of explaining the manual shutter thing a little more?


To take a photo your working with light, and primarily your 'low level' controls over this are the appature of the lense and the speed of the shutter.

Auto mode works this all out for you, given averages in what it thinks you want. And is fine for landscape/snaps etc.

But sometimes you'll want something different. A long exposure for waterfall or fast exposure for motor racing. Without some sort of manual override the camera will just go on doing what it thinks is best.

For 95% of photo's any camera will do with auto mode, unless you 'get arty' or want something specialised (like sports photograpy).

Your looking at tiny point and shoots, I guess most of these only work in full auto mode.

davel

8,982 posts

278 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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Finepix S7000?

Just had my previous 2800 Zoom nicked, along with Laptop and thinking of one of these to replace it.

Enthusiastic novice only though....

sixpot

Original Poster:

444 posts

263 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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RobDickinson said:

sixpot said:
Before I answer....any chance of explaining the manual shutter thing a little more?



To take a photo your working with light, and primarily your 'low level' controls over this are the appature of the lense and the speed of the shutter.

Auto mode works this all out for you, given averages in what it thinks you want. And is fine for landscape/snaps etc.

But sometimes you'll want something different. A long exposure for waterfall or fast exposure for motor racing. Without some sort of manual override the camera will just go on doing what it thinks is best.

For 95% of photo's any camera will do with auto mode, unless you 'get arty' or want something specialised (like sports photograpy).

Your looking at tiny point and shoots, I guess most of these only work in full auto mode.


Ok...thanks....yeah point and shoot sums me up exactly...on a serious note though....auto will do me fine.

Pretty much made my mind up now (Canon it is I think)...but have one final question......consumables......Are the Canon or Sony consumables cheaper, and I guess you don't get cases for the kinda money being asked for on the Net

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

274 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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Cannon review :

www.steves-digicams.com/2004_reviews/s500.html

Has custom battery and charger.
manual exposure so you can faff a bit
AF assist light
Comes with a 32mb compact flash card (CF).

CF cards are the biggest (physicaly) but the cheapest memory cards, 512mb will be around £35-50 online.


simpo two

90,497 posts

285 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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sixpot said:
but have one final question......consumables......Are the Canon or Sony consumables cheaper

Consumables: none!
But you should get an extra battery, because if you're away from the charger and the battery dies, you're buggered. You don't need a branded battery; eBay is fine.
You'll also need a bigger memory card than the one the camera will come with. 256Mb should be plenty, and that won't be Sony or Canon anyway.

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

268 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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Bee_Jay said:
<a href="http://www.steves-digicams.com">www.steves-digicams.com</a> - the best, most objective independent review site - this guy is amazingly anal.

Here is the only place you will get a fair and balanced opinion.

If you wanted a biased opinion - the Canon - outstanding !



Unfortunately, no sign of the IXUS 500 on it.

That's because it's in as an S500!

>> Edited by mrmaggit on Tuesday 19th October 13:10

dontlift

9,396 posts

278 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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I have just taken a Nikon D70 6.1 Mega Pixel Camera with lens card etc brand new, in exchange for some tool cabinets.

Far too good for me was about to put it on ebay, if anyone wants it then i am looking for around £750 they are about a grand in Jessops