What a Joke - Thames Valley Police!
What a Joke - Thames Valley Police!
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benmc

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546 posts

272 months

Thursday 7th October 2004
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I need to let off some steam.

I drive from Bracknell to Slough every morning, I come into Slough on the Windsor/Eton bypass - a dual carridgeway from one side of Windsor to the M4.

Guess what the Police are manning this morning. I F*^*ing traffic survey blocking one lane. This is causing the whole of Windsor grinding to a halt and added 45 min to a 20 min journey.

HELP. This strikes me as a joke. Some traffic survey company has gone to the Thames Valley Police and said 'Can we carry out a traffic survey on one of the main roads in the area during rush hour' and the Police have said YES!

What a bunch of prats!

ben

Scott W

572 posts

267 months

Thursday 7th October 2004
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I used to do that route daily, and it can be a nightmare on some days (especially sitting in traffic near Legoland just through the sheer volume going through Windsor), but I cannot believe the Thames Valley Police have authorised that survey to cause even more chaos/hold ups!

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6,649 posts

287 months

Thursday 7th October 2004
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What difference did it make other than you had another 45 minutes to ponder your itinery for the day?

No different from a prat member of the public deciding to trash their vehicle on a busy rush hour route causing exactly the same consequences to you and everyone else without applying for permission to do so!

Traffic surveys are done to try and make things easier in future so that planning can alleviate the congestion problems. Your wasted 45 minutes this morning may save you many more minutes in the future!

Still if you only live for the moment and don't look outside the box I can see why you post things like that.

If you don't like sitting in trffic jams, then move somewhere where there is no traffic or catch the train

Whoozit

3,865 posts

293 months

Thursday 7th October 2004
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Just a thought, but could it also be an ANPR operation?

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Thursday 7th October 2004
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Whoozit said:
Just a thought, but could it also be an ANPR operation?


It could have been but they normally don't start until 1100 as the unit has a long distance to travel unless the check happens to be near Bicester

benmc

Original Poster:

546 posts

272 months

Thursday 7th October 2004
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It is was not the 45 minutes that really bothered me.

It was the stupidity of running this Servey at that time. The lady of the phone from Thames Valley Police said that it was causing Gridlock in Windsor!

I would not have minded if it was something run by the Police but it was an external company causing hell.

Ben

benmc

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Thursday 7th October 2004
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"No different from a prat member of the public deciding to trash their vehicle on a busy rush hour route causing exactly the same consequences to you and everyone else without applying for permission to do so!
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The prat member of the public does not intend to crash their car and cause traffic chaos! That is an accident.

What happened this morning was planned by someone with a brain or not as the case may be!

Ben

medicineman

1,817 posts

261 months

Thursday 7th October 2004
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I think traffic surveys have to have the police present because civilians have no powers to request a car to stop.

Marki

15,763 posts

294 months

Thursday 7th October 2004
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gone said:
What difference did it make other than you had another 45 minutes to ponder your itinery for the day?


If you don't like sitting in trffic jams, then move somewhere where there is no traffic or catch the train




What bollox , how dare you spout this rubbish

benmc

Original Poster:

546 posts

272 months

Thursday 7th October 2004
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medicineman said:
I think traffic surveys have to have the police present because civilians have no powers to request a car to stop.




What bothers me is that a member of the Police must have agreed to this! NO CLUE!

Ben

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Thursday 7th October 2004
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benmc said:
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It was the stupidity of running this Servey at that time. The lady of the phone from Thames Valley Police said that it was causing Gridlock in Windsor!


Maybe the reason for the survey at that time was to get information about traffic at that time
They could not get that information about that time in the morning if they did it at another time

Windsor is a place that often gridlocks in any case. Maybe that is why they were having a survey to try and find ways of preventing it. Thats why they ask stupid questions about
1 "where have you come from?"
2 "Where are you going?"
3 "What is the purpose of your journey?"

benmc said:

I would not have minded if it was something run by the Police but it was an external company causing hell.

Ben


Like I said before, it may be to your benefit in future

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Thursday 7th October 2004
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medicineman said:
I think traffic surveys have to have the police present because civilians have no powers to request a car to stop.



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Thursday 7th October 2004
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benmc said:

The prat member of the public does not intend to crash their car and cause traffic chaos! That is an accident.


There is no such thing as an 'accident' where motor vehicles are concerned on a road

benmc

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546 posts

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Thursday 7th October 2004
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benmc said:
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It was the stupidity of running this Servey at that time. The lady of the phone from Thames Valley Police said that it was causing Gridlock in Windsor!



Maybe the reason for the survey at that time was to get information about traffic at that time
They could not get that information about that time in the morning if they did it at another time

Windsor is a place that often gridlocks in any case. Maybe that is why they were having a survey to try and find ways of preventing it. Thats why they ask stupid questions about
1 "where have you come from?"
2 "Where are you going?"
3 "What is the purpose of your journey?"




In this modern day of Number Plate Reading etc there must be a better way of doing this!

Ben

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Thursday 7th October 2004
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benmc said:


In this modern day of Number Plate Reading etc there must be a better way of doing this!

Ben


Tomorrow, write in big white writing across the top of your windscreen.

1. Where you have come from
2. where you are going
3. the purpose of your journey.

Number plate reading will not help until they can speak or provide telepathic information

If you are stopped you are not obliged to give any information but you MUST stop!

benmc

Original Poster:

546 posts

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Thursday 7th October 2004
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gone said:

benmc said:


In this modern day of Number Plate Reading etc there must be a better way of doing this!

Ben



Tomorrow, write in big white writing across the top of your windscreen.

1. Where you have come from
2. where you are going
3. the purpose of your journey.

Number plate reading will not help until they can speak or provide telepathic information

If you are stopped you are not obliged to give any information but you MUST stop!


You can gather everything apart from the Purpose using Number Plate Reading. I am sure you could even use one of those computer things to collate the data!

Ben

MEMSDesign

1,100 posts

294 months

Thursday 7th October 2004
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benmc said:


You can gather everything apart from the Purpose using Number Plate Reading. I am sure you could even use one of those computer things to collate the data!

Ben
Maybe you can in theory, but I doubt whether organsiations like traffic master collect information on where every car is going. I suppose you could spend millions of pounds of taxpayers money developing a system to do it, but you'd only get people coming on here, bemoaning the waste of money and saying 'Why don't they just stop people and ask them?'

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Thursday 7th October 2004
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benmc said:


You can gather everything apart from the Purpose using Number Plate Reading. I am sure you could even use one of those computer things to collate the data!

Ben


Come on Ben. Use your brain.

Car registered in Nottingham. Borrowed by a daughter from her father because hers has been crashed.
She lives in Ascot and is driving to Windsor to take the kids to school.

1. Not registered to her but her father in Nottingham
2. Registered in her fathers name which was her maiden name.

Is that the correct information that can be gained by a camera?

A camera will tell the survey that the car comes from Nottingham and nothing else. It will not tell them where it is going nor why it is on that piece of road at that particular time.

benmc

Original Poster:

546 posts

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Thursday 7th October 2004
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gone said:

benmc said:


You can gather everything apart from the Purpose using Number Plate Reading. I am sure you could even use one of those computer things to collate the data!

Ben



Come on Ben. Use your brain.

Car registered in Nottingham. Borrowed by a daughter from her father because hers has been crashed.
She lives in Ascot and is driving to Windsor to take the kids to school.

1. Not registered to her but her father in Nottingham
2. Registered in her fathers name which was her maiden name.

Is that the correct information that can be gained by a camera?

A camera will tell the survey that the car comes from Nottingham and nothing else. It will not tell them where it is going nor why it is on that piece of road at that particular time.


but most people do not fit that profile

benmc

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546 posts

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Thursday 7th October 2004
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I think we should agree to disagree.

I am sure that we can both see the other point of view.

Lets hope that they are not doing the same thing on the way home!

Ben