RE: Dunlop Pure Driving Experiences: Hardknott Pass
RE: Dunlop Pure Driving Experiences: Hardknott Pass
Thursday 30th May 2013

Dunlop Pure Driving Experiences: Hardknott Pass

First in a series of videos sponsored by Dunlop Tyres takes in Hardknott Pass in the Lake District




What exactly is a pure driving experience? Well, Dunlop Tyres is keen to explore the idea - keen enough that it's sponsoring a new section of articles and videos here on PistonHeads with the aim to inspire us all to go out and discover one for ourselves.

It's all part of the firm's 125-year anniversary and for the first instalment Autocar's Steve Sutcliffe takes a Mercedes C63 AMG Black Series for a run up the infamous Hardknott Pass - the menacingly titled stretch of road in the Lake District that's done for many a wheezing clutch and challenged the quivering legs of countless walkers and cyclists over the years. As you'd expect, the Black doesn't struggle with the one in three incline. And along the way Steve discovers some interesting facts about one of Britain's most historically significant roads.

See the video here.

 

   
 
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JaguarsportXJR

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237 posts

174 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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Haven't watched the whole vid yet (no sound at work) but looking forward to it.

From the bit I have watched though, that seems an awful lot of car for a road so bumpy, narrow and wet. Surely a hot hatch of some sort would've been a better choice?

If it mentions that in the film, I'm sorry. And rest assured I'll feel like an idiot once I get home to watch it.

Tuvra

7,927 posts

256 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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Can we have that main photo in High Resolution? That has Desktop Wallpaper written all over it bounce

The Don of Croy

6,464 posts

190 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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Car too big / road too narrow...

Last time I drove there was in my trusty Almera Gti, leaving after a fabulous walking holiday, to find I was holding up some guy in an Escort 1.6 plain jane spec! Boy did he give it some - the car was at the edge of grip but he (a mature gentleman) was up to the task and disappeared over the pass and was gone...

Simply must go back soon. But not in a huge AMG (chance would be nice tho').

Behemoth

2,105 posts

162 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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Agreed. Silly car for what is little more than a path. Integrale territory but I suppose Dunlop aren't selling too many boots in that market. Nice try at pseudo Harris reportage but a bit of a fail.

nightflight

814 posts

248 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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I did this road a few weeks ago on a motorbike, and it felt bloody narrow on that. I wouldn't even try it in a car.

tomsugden

2,480 posts

259 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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I am informed by a friend who lives at the end of Hardknott pass, that this is actually Wrynose Pass!

rcspeirs

181 posts

245 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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Most of the footage is in the Duddon valley, between Hard Knott and Wrynose. A few segments, especially towards the end, are definitely Hard Knott.

GreatGranny

9,519 posts

257 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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Pah! AMG, first time I did it was aged 15 on a 5 speed Raleigh racer with all the camping gear on the back!

harryowl

1,114 posts

212 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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Never thought I'd see 'pure driving experience' and 'Mercedes' in the same sentence!

ecs0set

2,527 posts

315 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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"The moment you put a brand new set of tyres on, it blows you away how muchLITTLE grip there is, every time”

EFA. Release agent.

Andyc4s

36 posts

168 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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wrong car for that road, give me the caterham or morgan any day

hsirap

17 posts

240 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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Do Chris and Steve share the same cameramen and production team? It's like I'm watching a Drive video.

I've done that road in an original mini and that was fast enough for me! Think the C63 would feel a little too unwieldy.

100SRV

2,384 posts

273 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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Agree - the car is too big to have fun in, a small hatch has more options for the correct line on roads this narrow.

I drove the pass in my Bowler a few years ago, the hairpins are tight but the view from the top is amazing, I also drove the now-closed (to mechanically propelled vehicles) unsurfaced Walna Scar road again great views and an epic climb / descent.

DaveCWK

2,422 posts

205 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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Hardknott is not a fun drive in anything larger than an mg midget, Even then it's borderline considering the current state of the road. UK passes are no place for a massive hard riding wide tracked lumbering Mercedes!

Harsh

4,551 posts

242 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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Done Wrynose and Harknott a few times.
Technically they are fun because they are difficult and narrow but in terms of pure driving roads, not really in the running,

AMG on those roads, definitely the wrong tool for the trade.


anonymous-user

85 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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Driven this pass loads of times in my old 205 Gti, including plenty of times in wintery conditions with strategic patches of ice placed right on the hairpins to catch you out. Honestly can't imagine any car that would be faster or more fun on this sort of road than an oldschool lightweight French hot hatch. Would leave that Mercedes (even with it's fancy tyres) a long way behind.

Assmask

33 posts

221 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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Did this Eastwards in my old Prelude 2.2 a few years ago, I still bang on about it to my pals. Brilliant stuff.

However, what a load of crap this clip is. It's all pure advert. Would be nice to see some proper footage of the car taking those inclines instead of stylized slow mos and Top Gear perspectives.

edwardji

1 posts

162 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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Drive (golf gti mk5) on this regularly only live a few miles away, prefer honister pass road to be honest. hardnott is too narrow, full off potholes, lovely big stones to destroy your vehicle. Seen quite a few people getting out of their cars at the bottom pulling hair out when the brakes are cooked (obviously not the c63 with its brakes). my advise as a person who drives the lake district regularly, honister pass or whinlatter.

EpsomJames

790 posts

277 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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Drove this in my Aston V8V last time I was in the Lakes. Came out the other side all in tact but wasn't much fun TBH.

loudlashadjuster

6,549 posts

215 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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Yawn. We're getting spoiled by Monkey's Drive vids, this was just dull.

A skittery C63 Black, too big and stiff for the road as has been said, and an unremarkable "on message" commentary that's had to be signed off by Dunlop for obvious commercial reasons do not make for a good video.

No particular problem with sponsored vids on PH, but at least they should let the cars do the talking instead of patronising corporate rhetoric.