Standard brake set up
Standard brake set up
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Tri2Tri

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184 posts

168 months

Saturday 1st June 2013
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After searching page after page ive finally given up as the search is down.
My standard brake set up on my 400 needs a refurb. I looked at WMS for there replacement kit to fit under the standard 15 inch imola's but at £500 for a complete set it, even though it seems like a good deal, is out of my price range. So now I am looking to direct replace for a standard set up,discs/pads and callipers. Could any one tell me the kit I need and where to buy please.

Regards
Gary.

Sardonicus

19,454 posts

251 months

Saturday 1st June 2013
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What have you fitted presently at the front 240mm or 260mm dia disc's ?

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Tri2Tri

Original Poster:

184 posts

168 months

Saturday 1st June 2013
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Good question. It is factory standard as far as I am aware, or is factory standard the wrong term here.

Tri2Tri

Original Poster:

184 posts

168 months

Saturday 1st June 2013
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Just measured the front discs. They are vented and measure 230mm...They are still in situ so it could be 240mm. Certainly no larger.

fatboychim

979 posts

281 months

Saturday 1st June 2013
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If you want something cheap and effective you could go for the Granada Cosworth calipers and Sierra Cosworth discs (283mm).
I and quite a few others have this set up and it works well on the road or track, plus pads are easily available.
Make sure the calipers are circa 1991 Granada Cosworth and the discs are for the 2wd Sierra Cosworth.

They bolt onto your existing fittings and all you have to do is drill out the holes to accommodate the larger bolts. I had to insert a thin washer behind the calipers to help alignment other people didn't.
I left the standard size rear discs and the car felt much more balanced under heavy braking whereas before the rear had felt a bit twitchy. I also bought grooved discs and Redstuff pads.

fatboychim

979 posts

281 months

Saturday 1st June 2013
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Sardonicus said:
What have you fitted presently at the front 240mm or 278mm dia disc's ?
I thought they only changed the later cars from a 240mm to a 260mm disc.

fatboychim

979 posts

281 months

Saturday 1st June 2013
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Here's a link to an old brake upgrade thread.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

carsy

3,019 posts

195 months

Saturday 1st June 2013
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Wasnt Daz, Siliconekid350hp trying to sell his 887/888 cosworth brakes. Maybe worth contacting him as they are a great upgrade and cheap.

Tri2Tri

Original Poster:

184 posts

168 months

Saturday 1st June 2013
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Thanks chaps for the replies. I am keeping the original 15 inch imola's so I take it that the 283mm granada set up will fit under them ? Siliconekid are you out there....Is your set up still for sale and would they fit under my imola's. Cheers all.

rigga

8,806 posts

231 months

Saturday 1st June 2013
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I've recently removed my 260mm set up to go larger, in great condition if your interested.

carsy

3,019 posts

195 months

Saturday 1st June 2013
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Yes they will fit under 15 inch fronts. I have them fitted, great upgrade and a massive improvement, although mine were the early 240mm discs. The 887/888 calipers are becoming rarer now but do still appear on ebay from time to time. Dont forget if you go this route you will also need the carriers as well.

Here is a DIY thread.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Tri2Tri

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184 posts

168 months

Saturday 1st June 2013
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Carsy a great thread find, cheers. It looks like thats the route I will be taking.
Rigga, thanks for the offer, all these different measurements are getting a bit confusing. i have settled on the 283mm disc/cossie calliper 888/887 route. Just need to find out if Siliconekid has his still for sale.

fatboychim

979 posts

281 months

Saturday 1st June 2013
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Tri2Tri

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184 posts

168 months

Saturday 1st June 2013
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Fatboychim, nice 1. Offer just gone in.

Sardonicus

19,454 posts

251 months

Saturday 1st June 2013
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fatboychim said:
I thought they only changed the later cars from a 240mm to a 260mm disc.
Bit of a grey area this one some 95on cars have the later bigger brakes front and rear wink but I have been reliably informed that there is no exact changover because I know of a 98 4.0 that has got the earlier smaller brakes fitted rolleyes even upgrading to the later bigger 260mm brakes would work well, personally I found the 240mm fitted to my 4.0 wooden and lacking power when pressing on eek I have the Cossy front 283mm brakes fitted & mentioned earlier smile I have edited my earlier reply to say 260mm rather than 278mm whistle






Edited by Sardonicus on Saturday 1st June 19:59

peaktorque

1,807 posts

241 months

Saturday 1st June 2013
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Mine had the weedy 230mm originally fitted. Crap. They went straight in the bin.

I now have the 887/888 calipers and 283mm disks and upgraded all the hoses to braided at the same time, although I still have the unvented rears, the improvement over the originals is great.

I've done a couple of TDs and they've performed faultlessly.

smile

fatboychim

979 posts

281 months

Saturday 1st June 2013
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Sardonicus said:
it of a grey area this one some 95on cars have the later bigger brakes front and rear wink but I have been reliably informed that there is no exact changover because I know of a 98 4.0 that has got the earlier smaller brakes fitted rolleyes even upgrading to the later bigger 260mm brakes would work well, personally I found the 240mm fitted to my 4.0 wooden and lacking power when pressing on eek I have the Cossy front 283mm brakes fitted & mentioned earlier smile I have edited my earlier reply to say 260mm rather than 278mm whistle






Edited by Sardonicus on Saturday 1st June 19:59
I fitted mine the day before a wet TD at Cadwell, so had no idea how they would work, I dropped down from the Gooseneck apprehensive about braking at the bottom and was completely surprised by how little drama there was. I'm sure there are bigger better brakes to be had but for the money this is an excellent choice.

SILICONEKID350HP

14,997 posts

261 months

Saturday 1st June 2013
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peaktorque said:
Mine had the weedy 230mm originally fitted. Crap. They went straight in the bin.

I now have the 887/888 calipers and 283mm disks and upgraded all the hoses to braided at the same time, although I still have the unvented rears, the improvement over the originals is great.

I've done a couple of TDs and they've performed faultlessly.

smile
I have the 887 888 Cosworth kit for sale, Yellow stuff pads and standard pads. 278 discs and old stock but new callipers and carriers with braided hoses.

SILICONEKID350HP

14,997 posts

261 months

Saturday 1st June 2013
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peaktorque said:
Mine had the weedy 230mm originally fitted. Crap. They went straight in the bin.

I now have the 887/888 calipers and 283mm disks and upgraded all the hoses to braided at the same time, although I still have the unvented rears, the improvement over the originals is great.

I've done a couple of TDs and they've performed faultlessly.

smile
You can upgrade the rears for peanuts ,got the later Chimaera hubs from the Cosworth brakers for £40 ,fitted new bearings ,then purchased some new callipers from fleabay .

Can`t remember where I got the vented discs but they are bloody fantastic.

Tri2Tri

Original Poster:

184 posts

168 months

Saturday 1st June 2013
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Silicone....What is your price for the brake kit.